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Offline Ryan_M

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Re: '52 M38
« Reply #195 on: January 18, 2015, 06:22:58 AM »
I'm still waffling badly on just how I will wire the M38 but I've at least committed to a 12V conversion. It had a key start CJ5 starter when I got it but I thought it would be cool to revert back to floor start and keep the stock look.

I just happen to have a pile of 24V M38 starters. The last early style one I sold went for about $300. The last late-style one I sold went for less than $7. I know this is sacrilege to some but I figured a $7 late-style starter was expendable under these circumstances.

I took one to my trusty old-school starter shop guy where he completely gutted and rebuilt it. Can you tell which one is 24V and which one is 12V?



The one with the white grease on the spring is the rebuilt 12V. You can see he had to mill and shorten the case to make everything fit. That means the stock starter bracket won't work anymore so I'll have to fab a new one but that's pretty simple stuff. With a little luck this thing will look and work flawlessly now with a 12V system.

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Re: '52 M38
« Reply #196 on: January 18, 2015, 07:55:43 AM »
Cool idea, I like it.
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Re: '52 M38
« Reply #197 on: January 18, 2015, 08:37:07 PM »
Looking great Ryan I cant wait to see it finished!
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Re: '52 M38
« Reply #198 on: January 18, 2015, 08:49:44 PM »
How do you deal with the 24v gauges when you change to 12v?

And the bulbs etc etc....?

And I don't blame you...just the buying two batteries will break the bank...
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Re: '52 M38
« Reply #199 on: January 18, 2015, 09:13:17 PM »
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How do you deal with the 24v gauges when you change to 12v?

You put them in a box with the rest of the 24V gear and store them away. If one of these years I don't drag a Jeep home in the fall maybe a proper conversion back to 24V can be my "winter project".
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Re: '52 M38
« Reply #200 on: January 18, 2015, 09:15:53 PM »
Nice work.  My tub has the plates on the back also.  Mine also looked bubbaish but I found them to be original so they stayed.

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Re: '52 M38
« Reply #201 on: January 18, 2015, 09:17:08 PM »
M38s are fun.

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Re: '52 M38
« Reply #202 on: January 19, 2015, 09:45:18 AM »
Yes m38's are the best

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Re: '52 M38
« Reply #203 on: January 19, 2015, 03:20:12 PM »
Nice looking rigs guys.

And Bill, that pic of yours may be the last known image of my Arctic Top in pristine condition....
« Last Edit: January 19, 2015, 03:20:32 PM by Ryan_M »
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Re: '52 M38
« Reply #204 on: January 19, 2015, 03:21:22 PM »
You guys sick of looking at pics of this tub yet?



Well, it's almost done. I've spent the past three days crawling all over this thing trying to button up any loose ends.�

Bracketry, trinketry, and wheelhouse footman loopery - check.



Driver's seat nut - check. Thanks NATE!


All holes filled and ground. Tender hat channel section cut out and replaced. Rear mount tab cut and reinforced.




I'm pretty much ready for whatever's next. What is next anyways? The plan is to use a rust converter, then apply small doses of body filler where needed, then epoxy primer, then paint. Is that the right order?

Before I pulled the tub I fit up the primed parts just to ensure they all still like each other. There's no reason they shouldn't but having never seen them together I figured better safe than sorry. All good. The fenders will need some TLC but everything else is ready to go.


« Last Edit: January 19, 2015, 03:21:44 PM by Ryan_M »
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Re: '52 M38
« Reply #205 on: January 19, 2015, 10:29:59 PM »
Wow, you're on a mission.  It looks great.  I wish I could find an old time starter/generator shop around here.

Did the correct wheel house tops fit well?

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Re: '52 M38
« Reply #206 on: January 20, 2015, 06:09:13 AM »
Nice job Ryan, your welding ability has come along pretty quick!
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Re: '52 M38
« Reply #207 on: January 20, 2015, 07:58:28 AM »
Welding is improving. And yes, new correct wheelhouses fit well enough. I'm a little suspicious of the passenger side one but I made it work.
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Re: '52 M38
« Reply #208 on: January 20, 2015, 12:41:14 PM »
You guy's are making me want an M-38...and a new project!

Ryan,

Do either of your engines have the rebuild tag on them, like this one? Is that the rebuild date, 2-61, or some other cryptic code?

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Re: '52 M38
« Reply #209 on: January 20, 2015, 08:12:10 PM »
Ryan you certainly work fast.  I am hoping to maybe repaint my m38 this year.  I am kind of on the fence about that, I dont want it to look to nice I cant use it off road but it also deserves to have a good paint job.
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