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garage gnome Flatfender Master 2013 Sponsor Member Offline Rustologist Posts: 1931 Location: Chester Joined: 02/16/12 Gender:	Re: Front Turn signals Reply #15 - 03/31/13 at 13:02:20	Print Post
	Ryan, the truck I had mentioned earlier uses a 5 prong flasher. 2 of the prongs are for the 4 way emergencies. I do not know which two they are. That is all the info I have!

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Ryan_M Flatfender Master Owner Member 2012 2016 Sponsor Member 2015 Sponsor Member Offline Posts: 1695 Location: Glenburn, ME Joined: 12/29/11 Gender:	Re: Front Turn signals Reply #16 - 03/31/13 at 13:15:00	Print Post
	Quote: Ryan, the truck I had mentioned earlier uses a 5 prong flasher. 2 of the prongs are for the 4 way emergencies. I do not know which two they are. That is all the info I have! Yeah I was hoping the "extra" two terminals were for auxiliary lights that I don't have and could just be ignored. No such luck. I'm thinking maybe I need to use a jumper of some sort to tie some of them together but I'm not brave enough to go experimenting that blindly. I don't like the smell of electrical smoke.

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Kenny_Kustom 3A Lover Offline Too cold outside to play.... Posts: 72 Location: Gimli, Manitoba Joined: 02/27/13 Gender:	Re: Front Turn signals Reply #17 - 03/31/13 at 13:35:36	Print Post
	Ryan_M wrote on 03/31/13 at 12:51:44: Does anyone know where I can find a 6V electronic flasher with only 3 terminals? My current thermal flasher (32CP-MAX6) has three terminals marked "P", "L", and "X". Because I followed the instructions when I bought the turn signal, I know how and why these terminals connect to the wires on my Jeep. Beyond that, I'm lost. I was hoping to find a new 6V flasher for my LED's with the same terminal configuration so I could just plug it in and go. The only 6V elec flasher I have been able to find (online or otherwise) has 5 terminals. The terminals are marked "30", "85", "86", "87", and "87a". I've tried every conceivable combination of connecting my three wires to these 5 terminals and can't get it to work (yes, I know electrical experimentation can make things go "poof") . I'm not even sure if this flasher can be made to work or if it is completely incompatible. I put LED's in the tail lights as well as the parking light/turn signals in order to rules out any inconsistencies with different bulbs. If anyone has a source for three terminal 6V electronic flashers or suggestions on how I can make use of my 5 terminal one please let me know. Thanks. That's a relay. Will not really work as a flasher. Why do you need 5 terminals??


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Ryan_M Flatfender Master Owner Member 2012 2016 Sponsor Member 2015 Sponsor Member Offline Posts: 1695 Location: Glenburn, ME Joined: 12/29/11 Gender:	Re: Front Turn signals Reply #18 - 03/31/13 at 14:36:57	Print Post
	Kenny_Kustom wrote on 03/31/13 at 13:35:36: Ryan_M wrote on 03/31/13 at 12:51:44: Does anyone know where I can find a 6V electronic flasher with only 3 terminals? My current thermal flasher (32CP-MAX6) has three terminals marked "P", "L", and "X". Because I followed the instructions when I bought the turn signal, I know how and why these terminals connect to the wires on my Jeep. Beyond that, I'm lost. I was hoping to find a new 6V flasher for my LED's with the same terminal configuration so I could just plug it in and go. The only 6V elec flasher I have been able to find (online or otherwise) has 5 terminals. The terminals are marked "30", "85", "86", "87", and "87a". I've tried every conceivable combination of connecting my three wires to these 5 terminals and can't get it to work (yes, I know electrical experimentation can make things go "poof") . I'm not even sure if this flasher can be made to work or if it is completely incompatible. I put LED's in the tail lights as well as the parking light/turn signals in order to rules out any inconsistencies with different bulbs. If anyone has a source for three terminal 6V electronic flashers or suggestions on how I can make use of my 5 terminal one please let me know. Thanks. That's a relay. Will not really work as a flasher. Why do you need 5 terminals?? I don't need 5 terminals but it was the only thing even remotely close that I could find. Any idea where I can get a 3 terminal flasher?

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Kenny_Kustom 3A Lover Offline Too cold outside to play.... Posts: 72 Location: Gimli, Manitoba Joined: 02/27/13 Gender:	Re: Front Turn signals Reply #19 - 03/31/13 at 14:40:04	Print Post
	Trico hd13 is what I'm using.


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Ryan_M Flatfender Master Owner Member 2012 2016 Sponsor Member 2015 Sponsor Member Offline Posts: 1695 Location: Glenburn, ME Joined: 12/29/11 Gender:	Re: Front Turn signals Reply #20 - 03/31/13 at 15:11:00	Print Post
	Kenny_Kustom wrote on 03/31/13 at 14:40:04: Trico hd13 is what I'm using. Do you mean "Tridon HD13"? I can't find one made by Trico. The Tridon HD13 is 12v and they don't appear to have a 6V version. Is you rig 6V or 12V? Are you using LED lights?

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Kenny_Kustom 3A Lover Offline Too cold outside to play.... Posts: 72 Location: Gimli, Manitoba Joined: 02/27/13 Gender:	Re: Front Turn signals Reply #21 - 03/31/13 at 16:41:18	Print Post
	Ryan_M wrote on 03/31/13 at 15:11:00: Kenny_Kustom wrote on 03/31/13 at 14:40:04: Trico hd13 is what I'm using. Do you mean "Tridon HD13"? I can't find one made by Trico. The Tridon HD13 is 12v and they don't appear to have a 6V version. Is you rig 6V or 12V? Are you using LED lights? 12v 1157 bulbs up front. Marker and signal. I have a 6v flasher at my shop. I will look for it mon morning. I could send it to you.


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Bob W Flatfender Master Owner Member 2012 2016 Sponsor Member Offline Posts: 2159 Location: Monticello, NY Joined: 10/19/10 Gender:	Re: Front Turn signals Reply #22 - 03/31/13 at 19:47:16	Print Post
	Original equipment turn signal flashers are designed to operate with a certain load. This load is equal to the amount of turn signal bulbs on each side. If a bulb burns out there is less current draw and so the flasher speed changes to let the operator know about the bad bulb. LEDs draw less current than standard bulbs so the flasher thinks a bulb is burned out and it flashes at a different rate. Heavy Duty flashers should flash at the same speed regardless of the load. So at the risk of spending someone else's money this is the first heavy duty flasher I found... http://www.ebay.com/itm/Heavy-Duty-3-Prong-6-Volt-Flasher-NEW-/360407063688#vi-c...
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Bob W Flatfender Master Owner Member 2012 2016 Sponsor Member Offline Posts: 2159 Location: Monticello, NY Joined: 10/19/10 Gender:	Re: Front Turn signals Reply #23 - 03/31/13 at 19:54:29	Print Post
	Here is another one that I like better... http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ideal-Heavy-Duty-Flasher-535-NOS-/200827587192?pt=Vintag... The "Heavy Duty" designation comes from the original intended use. When trailer lighting was attached to a vehicle the turn signal speed would be wrong because the load was wrong. True heavy duty flashers do not depend on the load for the flash speed.

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Ryan_M Flatfender Master Owner Member 2012 2016 Sponsor Member 2015 Sponsor Member Offline Posts: 1695 Location: Glenburn, ME Joined: 12/29/11 Gender:	Re: Front Turn signals Reply #24 - 03/31/13 at 20:49:29	Print Post
	Quote: Here is another one that I like better... http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ideal-Heavy-Duty-Flasher-535-NOS-/200827587192?pt=Vintag... The "Heavy Duty" designation comes from the original intended use. When trailer lighting was attached to a vehicle the turn signal speed would be wrong because the load was wrong. True heavy duty flashers do not depend on the load for the flash speed. Thanks Bob - I shall give this flasher a try. If I had to do it all over again I would have left the original parking light sockets and bulbs intact but simply wired them not to work as parking lights but only as directionals. Since I'm in it this far I might as well see if I can get this LED thing to work. I somehow need to justify that drilling out the parking light holes was a worthwhile mutilation of a perfectly good grill.

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gmcjr Flatfender Enthusiast Offline Even a blind hog finds a acorn every now and then. Posts: 168 Location: N. Texas Joined: 11/13/12 Gender:	Re: Front Turn signals Reply #25 - 04/01/13 at 01:23:52	Print Post
	Ryan_M wrote on 03/31/13 at 20:49:29: I would have left the original parking light sockets and bulbs intact but simply wired them not to work as parking lights but only as directionals That's what I did, I'm not exactly sure of the legality of it, for street use, but it works!

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Kenny_Kustom 3A Lover Offline Too cold outside to play.... Posts: 72 Location: Gimli, Manitoba Joined: 02/27/13 Gender:	Re: Front Turn signals Reply #26 - 04/01/13 at 12:26:06	Print Post
	The 6V flasher would be Tridon hd63 I am using a 3 wire socket/1157 bulb. I will retain park lamps, and signal. With a HD 13 12V flasher.


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Ryan_M Flatfender Master Owner Member 2012 2016 Sponsor Member 2015 Sponsor Member Offline Posts: 1695 Location: Glenburn, ME Joined: 12/29/11 Gender:	Re: Front Turn signals Reply #27 - 04/01/13 at 14:01:01	Print Post
	Thanks Kenny, looks like a pretty good set-up. Mine works fine with the 1157 bulbs but it's the LED's that are throwing a wrench in the works. I'm curious on yours - what are you using for parking light lenses?

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garage gnome Flatfender Master 2013 Sponsor Member Offline Rustologist Posts: 1931 Location: Chester Joined: 02/16/12 Gender:	Re: Front Turn signals Reply #28 - 04/01/13 at 14:11:31	Print Post
	Those are the same ones I used on mine. I got them from autozone I think. Kenny, you may need spacers like I had to do.

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Kenny_Kustom 3A Lover Offline Too cold outside to play.... Posts: 72 Location: Gimli, Manitoba Joined: 02/27/13 Gender:	Re: Front Turn signals Reply #29 - 04/01/13 at 14:43:49	Print Post
	Quote: Those are the same ones I used on mine. I got them from autozone I think. Kenny, you may need spacers like I had to do. Actually, mine fit. Im going to make a thin seal, but its fits without..


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