yeah they are stock units, in nice shape....they have a cross arm support structure attached to each motor such that they mount with this structure and stand off normally displaying just enough rod length to mount the wiper arm. Without the supplemental structure such that the motor body is mounted directly to the windshield frame then the rod length seems a bit long....i'll probably mount them as they came and then no worries...i have a sneaking feeling that they cam from an M38, not a 3A