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Hey from Joshua Tree
03/06/19 at 00:03:11
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Hey all -

My brother and I are working on a property in a remote part of Joshua Tree and decided we needed a good desert rat 4x4. Not knowing much about Willy's we happened to come across a '51 for sale, I fell in love and here we are. Now the fun begins!

She worked for a minute but soon found rust from the tank coming into the fuel filter. Have replaced some parts in the carb, added a new fuel pump and am awaiting delivery on new fuel tank as it seems better to go new vs trying to get all the rust out and dealing with subsequent issues.

In the meantime I've order some replacement seats, as you will see the front passenger seat is not quite period correct  Grin

I found a good deal on an m38 rear seat however I am a bit confused as to what existing hardware I'm dealing with in the bed currently (pictured).

Mainly I could use some help identifying this frankenstein as this is my first willy's and identification does not seem to be so clear.

Identification:
So it's a 1951 from what the owners tell me. According to kaiser willys identification it's an m38 but there are a few things missing like the proper rear seat brackets, tailgate etc.

The only plaque is in the engine bay on passenger side (pictured)

The body has a serial number 85,xxx stamped into it below the windshield on the drivers side.

I also found a serial number on the chassis that reads USM11661GM on it.

My best guess is that maybe it's an m38 with a new body on it? The body does have things like indents for the shovel / axe, but lacks other things like proper rear seat mounts, the bars that protect the headlights, and color being a mix of red and orange I don't imagine the military would have chosen  Roll Eyes

Plenty of work to do still. Want to get her running smoothly so we can take her out in the more remote parts of the country out here. Oh and trying to decide whether I should get my own seat cushions made or just buy them from beachwood / other suppliers.

Looking forward to digging around on this incredible forum resource!

  

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Re: Hey from Joshua Tree
Reply #1 - 03/06/19 at 00:52:31
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Nice looking jeep! Welcome...the journey begins!

I can't help much with the ID, other than it has m-38 details like the small glove box on the passenger side and the large removable floor panel over the transmission, along with the other things you mentioned.

The rear seat mounts are a mystery and the rear floor lacks the usual indents for the footman tie downs.

Does it have an engine number? That would be on the flat area just above the water pump. Can be difficult to read and sometimes they get milled off if the block has had work done.

Does it have a large mouth fuel filler opening?

Definitely looks more m-38 than CJ, but your guess of a replacement tub may be correct. Never seen that Willy's ID plate on the firewall before....The military usually had an ID plate on the wheelhouse front panel just behind and hidden by the passenger seat...

Randy
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Reply #2 - 03/06/19 at 01:47:57
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Hey Randy -

Thanks for the reply!

Engine number is super hard to read. See attached, as well gas tank opening.

Tackling fuel supply for now from tank to carb. Just hoping to get her running consistently so I can take her out some reasonable distance.
  

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Re: Hey from Joshua Tree
Reply #3 - 03/06/19 at 02:04:53
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Well, that looks like an M-38 fuel opening.

Good luck with that engine number. Use a solvent to clean away the grease and crud...don't scrape it....

I don't see the cover in the cowl for the second battery.....is your battery in the engine compartment? Seems like it should be visible in the picture in the first post of your engine bay....

Lots of special purpose jeeps out there though, you never know....
  

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Reply #4 - 03/06/19 at 04:34:51
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battery is in the engine compartment yes, on the passenger side, it's just hidden in the previous pic.

Will take a run at using some solvent to get an engine number.

Thanks again man!
  
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Re: Hey from Joshua Tree
Reply #5 - 03/07/19 at 01:48:21
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Hi Blake,
Welcome to the 3A Page.  You and 1955CJ-5 are on the right track.  This has all the sure tell signs of being an early reproduction tub.  In fact, most of the sheet metal is probably reproduction.  The driver seat frame is from a 2A.  The Willys frame has some modifications, so it's hard to tell what it is with this set of photos.

The 4LR plate is pretty neat, but is not an original Willys plate.  Oddly, the 4LR is a Prefix is the common prefix used in front of a replacement L-134 engine.  I wonder if "Willys Co" was a tub import company or a fitment company?  Someone here may know.

All said, it's really cool.  Thanks for showing us your new ride.
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Re: Hey from Joshua Tree
Reply #6 - 03/07/19 at 19:14:33
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Looks like a great rig to have some fun with. That passenger seat is great LOL!!!
  
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Re: Hey from Joshua Tree
Reply #7 - 03/08/19 at 01:28:49
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Thanks for the replies guys. So a serial number off the engine seems to be my best source for info. I'll take to it this weekend to see if I can work some info off the block.

  
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