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Reply #75 - 02/24/16 at 04:52:19
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Hoover is in the garage, and I have been spending a couple hours a day on cutting, grinding, and welding . . . today,  for a little change of pace,  I decided to try to pull out the driver-side quarter panel. . .  it has been bugging me to look at it.

First and second photo show how "concave" the panel was.  (some of the "demolition-derby" damage caused by PO)

Third photo shows my method for pulling it out . . . a couple 2x4's to spread load,   angle iron to bridge the damage,  and some C-clamps to pull the panel out past where it should be.

It worked fairly well  . .  my plan is to dolly and "shrink" it back to flat. . .  stay tuned,  hopefully the plan works.   Smiley
  

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Re: The preservation of "Hoover" - my '51 CJ3A
Reply #76 - 02/29/16 at 15:09:56
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Some of this past weekend's progress,  mainly the passenger side quarter.     I was a little concerened about getting this on straight,  but it worked out ok.

photo1 - started by clamping the joint on inside,  also visible in this photo is the sparetire brace from Classic Enterprises,  I figured there was no way I was going to be able to fabricate anything even close to original,  so "splurged" and bought this piece Smiley,  the same time I got rear floor.  It is very nice,  and really helped to make sure the panel went where it was supposed to.

Photo2 - tack welded the joint,  I will eventually grind those out once the "spot welds" are done inside the fender.

not shown in photos:  the inner brace was primed and painted, then attached with screws to the wheel well

phot03 - attached quarter panel to inner brace with screws,  working from back to front,  pulling tight to radius,   not shown in photos - >  but next was to cut thru both the new panel and tub,  along the red line.

photo4 - finished matching panel to tub,  and tacked it up

photo5 - "spot welded" thru the screw holes to the inner brace,  and to top of wheel housing
I am very happy with how it turned out.  The metal seemed thicker that original,  but that means it should be very sturdy for spare tire.
  

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Re: The preservation of "Hoover" - my '51 CJ3A
Reply #77 - 02/29/16 at 16:29:13
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That turned out really nice.
  

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Reply #78 - 03/11/16 at 18:28:03
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Moving up the side to toe gusset area.

1) cut out the rust
2) & 3) made a template using aluminum flashing
4) flattened out the shape
5) traced the pattern on 16 ga
6) cut out
7) bent to shape
    (I saw a tip on TV to use body spoon to eliminate hammer marks,  worked pretty good, not that it matter on this piece  Smiley)
  

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Re: The preservation of "Hoover" - my '51 CJ3A
Reply #79 - 03/12/16 at 12:51:24
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I like the aluminum flashing idea. I usually use cardboard, which never seems to come out quite right.
  

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Re: The preservation of "Hoover" - my '51 CJ3A
Reply #80 - 03/14/16 at 03:53:39
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garage gnome wrote on 03/12/16 at 12:51:24:
I like the aluminum flashing idea. I usually use cardboard, which never seems to come out quite right.


I have always used cardboard also,  but could not find any thin stuff, . . .   then got the idea of using flashing. 

it will be my future choice,  if "folding" is necessary.

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Reply #81 - 03/14/16 at 04:10:34
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Toe gusset piece . .  ready to weld in

Those tabs did not end up exactly oem,  but only the experts will notice difference. Smiley

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Reply #82 - 03/15/16 at 03:32:20
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We can not have too many clamps when doing tub repair. Smiley

A couple long-reach Vise-grips,  pulling the newly welded toe gusset,  to be flush with side panel . .  prior to attaching to the floor.

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Reply #83 - 03/16/16 at 03:56:29
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Toe gusset patch weld in . .  inside view.

  

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Reply #84 - 03/16/16 at 03:59:10
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Anybody know where I could find photo showing what oem tub looks like (from bottom) in these 2 areas?

This build is FAR from a "restoration",  but I would like to keep as close to looking original as possible.


I did some searching,  but could not find any "close up" photos
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Reply #85 - 03/17/16 at 02:43:24
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I did some more searching at lunchtime.   I found several photos of tubs from bottom,  but nothing that was "close-up" enough to see detail.   (zoomed-in was blurry)
  
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Reply #86 - 03/17/16 at 02:53:03
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My wife is out of town,  so I could spend the whole afternoon/evening after work,   tinkering with the Jeep.  Smiley

Most progress was on floor.   Other than a few touch-ups, it is almost welded up.   (just noticed the argon tank on welder is almost empty) . .   some of that was used on a Bantam trailer project,   but most of it was used on Hoover. . .    lots of welding for sure.





  

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Reply #87 - 03/17/16 at 02:57:21
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The new sheetmetal is getting a little rusty.   Results of setting all winter under a slightly leaky tarp.   . .  hopefully though,  this natural "etching" will give the paint something to hang on to.  Grin
  
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Reply #88 - 03/17/16 at 10:11:28
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I can take some close ups. Everything else looks great!
  

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Re: The preservation of "Hoover" - my '51 CJ3A
Reply #89 - 03/21/16 at 04:57:20
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Thanks Nate!

No progress this weekend, other priorities.  Sad

I fooled around a little with toolbox though.    Mine is rusted badly around the lid area.    I have been wondering easiest way to repair that.

An idea came today to use 3/4" square tubing,  (the measurement seems right) . .   plan is to cut out one of the 4 sides.    I think that might work.    Below is photo of a section temporarily welded in.  (not a great photo,  but hopefully shows how the concept.

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