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'51 3A - revisited
01/26/14 at 22:53:55
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I've recently started a few mini projects on my '51 3A and since I never really had a dedicated project thread here, I figured I might as well do it now for Round 2. Most you you know this already but for those who are new, allow me to bring you up to speed:

This is how it looked when I brought it home in Oct '11.








Within a couple days, and with virtually no mechanical knowledge, I went looking for the source of the failed brakes and this happened:




Through the power of the internet and one small triumph at a time, somehow it managed to end up like this:







So I did a lot of repairs but there were some things that I skipped over or just plain did a terrible job at. For a rookie effort, I expected as much. I'm now going back and either touching up some of those issues or servicing things that simply need a little maintenance.
  

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Re: '51 3A - revisited
Reply #1 - 01/26/14 at 22:56:50
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I have been battling a small leak around the new water pump that persistently and quite annoyingly results in coolant blowing all over the passenger side of the engine every time I drive it.



Grill, radiator, and water pump removed. Water pump mating surfaces cleaned, threaded holes in block cleaned up. New water pump gasket, sealant, and bolts torqued to spec. I wish there was a good way to test for leaks besides putting everything back together and driving it. With the radiator out it's a good chance to clean up some of those places that are impossible to reach otherwise.



I drove over 3500 miles last summer which was its first full season on the road. After about 3000 miles I started experiencing an occasional death wobble. The steering was rebuilt almost entirely during the initial rebuild - new steering box innards, bell crank kit, tie rod ends, connecting rod kit, etc. Pretty much everything but the king pin bearings. Time to take care of those.

It's amazing how crummy brand new brake hardware can look after only a year. I'll do a better job painting everything before it is reinstalled.


Knuckles on their way out.






You can see 3 out of 4 races are pretty badly worn. That makes the effort worthwhile. It'd be a little discouraging if I found no wear!





Axle in a bag.



This is a slippery slope. I'm not wanting to open up the differential and attack it too but that all-too-familiar saying "Well, you've gone this far..." is creeping back into my head. We'll see whether or not I listen to it.




  

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Re: '51 3A - revisited
Reply #2 - 01/27/14 at 01:18:37
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Are you still finding NH mud?
  

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Re: '51 3A - revisited
Reply #3 - 01/27/14 at 01:28:32
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Bill wrote on 01/27/14 at 01:18:37:
Are you still finding NH mud?

Lots of NH mud. Did I roll the Jeep upside down in bog and not remember it?
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Re: '51 3A - revisited
Reply #4 - 01/27/14 at 01:49:26
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The brake shoes look like they've worn pretty evenly, given that you thought they might be the wrong size.
  
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Reply #5 - 01/27/14 at 02:35:40
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Find two pipes that fit your radiator hoses. Buy pipe caps for them. Drill and tap both, one for a Schrader valve, and the other for a pressure gage. Install one in each radiator hose, then use a tire pump to pressurize your cooling system to 2-5 lbs above your cap rating. Now, you can look for leaks without the engine running or the radiator installed.

You can use the same setup, with short pieces of radiator hose or the whole hoses from your jeep, to test a radiator.

There are commercial pressure testers, but the adapter to a jeep size cap might be hard to find nowadays and you'll spend plenty just buying the set.

If the radiator is in already you can use a tee off a heater hose to do a similar thing. Or pop the upper hose off and use the pipe, this time with your gage and Schrader valve installed in the side wall of the pipe, and an additional short piece of radiator hose to complete the circuit back to where you pulled the hose from.

If you have ever done a whole house plumbing pressure check for the building inspector it is the same sort of deal. Just less pressure. Too much and you'll bust the radiator or heater core.
  

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Re: '51 3A - revisited
Reply #6 - 01/27/14 at 15:27:26
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Good idea Bill. if I were doing this a lot I'd probably rig up something along those lines. For now I'll bolt it back up, run it, and hope for the best. That usually has a 50/50 success rate. I'm willing to play those odds today.
  

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Re: '51 3A - revisited
Reply #7 - 01/27/14 at 16:08:29
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Ryan,
You're having too much fun.  I'm throwing the red flag and asking for a review. Grin

'Upon further review, repairs to two different Willys at the same time is not fair.  That will be a 10 yard penalty and loss of down.'

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Re: '51 3A - revisited
Reply #8 - 01/27/14 at 16:38:46
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Football analogies from a Broncos fan to a Pats fan are most unwelcome at this particular time. Too much, too soon Tim. It still hurts.

You know you're a Willys nerd when you compile a Winter Project spreadsheet for two Jeeps and two trailers. With a little luck I can have 4 Willy's related projects going simultaneously before I'm done here. That should give me plenty of opportunity to really screw something up.



I'm already working on the 2015 list. I really need that welder....   Cheesy
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Re: '51 3A - revisited
Reply #9 - 01/29/14 at 02:56:13
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Ryan_M wrote on 01/27/14 at 16:38:46:
Football analogies from a Broncos fan to a Pats fan are most unwelcome at this particular time. Too much, too soon Tim. It still hurts.

You know you're a Willys nerd when you compile a Winter Project spreadsheet for two Jeeps and two trailers. With a little luck I can have 4 Willy's related projects going simultaneously before I'm done here. That should give me plenty of opportunity to really screw something up.



I'm already working on the 2015 list. I really need that welder....   Cheesy



My bad , Ryan.  I'm hopeful that you'll be rooting for the Broncos to beat the Hawks this weekend. Roll Eyes

I thought I was the only one doing lists.  Mine is a little more high tech than yours.  Excel spreadsheet! Has additional notes including tools, materials, and potential suppliers/vendors for said items.  It also includes web site addresses.  Once the listed item is complete, I change the font color to RED.  Who's the kook now? Cheesy

I really enjoyed following the progress on your fist build.  It's good to see Old Grey again.  BTW, did you ever give it an official name?


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Reply #10 - 01/29/14 at 21:08:39
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athawk11 wrote on 01/29/14 at 02:56:13:
I thought I was the only one doing lists.  Mine is a little more high tech than yours.  Excel spreadsheet! Has additional notes including tools, materials, and potential suppliers/vendors for said items.  It also includes web site addresses.  Once the listed item is complete, I change the font color to RED. 


Impressive indeed. I've avoided too much detail on my Excel sheet. I'm afraid I might accidentally AutoSum the total expense and fall out of my chair.
  

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Re: '51 3A - revisited
Reply #11 - 01/29/14 at 22:04:33
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Lists?

Normally in pencil, scribbled on any available piece of paper, usually a packing list from Walck's or similar. Each item scratched out as it's completed or abandoned.

List is typically lost before completion...

But then I make a new list.....
  

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Reply #12 - 02/05/14 at 01:42:39
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King pin bearings are in and all components that came off have been cleaned up and repainted. Amazing how dirty this stuff gets after only a year on the road (and a day of following Bill and GarageGnome through the NH woods).



I threw in the towel and replaced all the brake adjusting hardware. Adjusting brakes is a pain on a good day, doing it with crusty old hardware is even worse. Out with the old, in with the new. New knuckle seals and felt installed. I did clean up those old bolts and coupled with new washers was able to reuse them all. That part looks good but now the rest of the axle looks like crap in comparison. Here goes that slippery slope thing again....



Thought I'd get a little crazy with the brake cylinders. Athawk hasn't been the only one splashing around in red paint this week. Do red cylinders give it more horsepower? I think so. Can I say I'm driving a "sleeper" now?



The brake cylinder paint was only just to test what the color looked like. The real reason I bought it was for the wheels. I only have three out of the five painted and clear coated but I had to do a test fit tonight.  How's she look in red??



Now to engineer some way to apply the black pinstripe. I've come up with a few ideas and I don't like any of them.
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Reply #13 - 02/05/14 at 02:12:21
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Holy Cow Look at those RED wheels!!
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Reply #14 - 02/05/14 at 02:39:31
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1955CJ-5 wrote on 02/05/14 at 02:12:21:
Holy Cow Look at those RED wheels!!


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