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Repairing a temperature gauge
03/07/13 at 02:41:35
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Some of use like to keep our dash boards as stock as possible. One item that is frequently broken upon removal is the temperature gauge bulb in the block. But not to fear, it is a very easy thing to repair.

I had gotten a very nice original for my 49 since I was putting it back to stock with patina. The bulb had a slight crack in it so all the ether leaked out.



I cut the wire and small copper tube in an area that would be hidden under the dash. I also bought a cheapo temp gauge that had the wire outer case too. I cut that one appropriately to match the length I cut off the original gauge AFTER letting the bulb sit in a cup of water (FULLY SUBMERGED) in the freezer for the night. This does two things; one, it keeps the ether down in the bulb so it won't escape and two, it reduces the risk of fire/explosion Note: when cutting the small copper tubing, be sure it is clear of debris. It crushes very easily! I then cut a piece of 1/8" copper tubing a soldered in as a splice. I would recommend using an electric soldering gun too! It might be worth your while to practice a few times on the piece you cut off your original gauge.





And now, your dash is back to stock with a good working gauge!

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Re: Repairing a temperature gauge
Reply #1 - 03/07/13 at 02:55:16
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Nice....It might be my eyes tonight but yuo may need to doublecheck your camera focus.

Definitely do not use a propane torch for this operation.

I had seen this repair method earlier and they talked about checking your work with a pot of boiling water to see how accurate the gage was afterwards. SOmehow they added or subtracted ether to get it closer if it was way off.

So the bulb end was still frozen when you were finished soldering? What solder and flux did you use or did I miss it?

I think you singlehandedly just tripled the value of broken priginal temp gages.

Good post , definitely a keeper.
  

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Re: Repairing a temperature gauge
Reply #2 - 03/07/13 at 03:04:51
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Yeah, iPhones suck sometimes at taking pictures if it is too light or dark.  Cheesy

Yes, you want to keep it as cold as possible, so leaving the bulb in a chunk of ice insures this. I did check it with boiling water (after it thawed out so it didn't expand and crack again!) and it was very close. I use silverbrite and regular flux as you would for copper piping work in your house and what not. I'm not a fan of the fluxcore stuff or the thin electrical stuff.

Believe it or not, I posted this on the 2A page a while ago when I first did this, and I didn't get that great of a response.  Shocked So I figured I would repost here since you wanted some how-tos.  Wink
  

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Re: Repairing a temperature gauge
Reply #3 - 03/07/13 at 03:18:21
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I had hoped to do that with my original gauge but the needle is pegged at the top of the scale.....I thought it might just be stuck but some gentle tapping had no effect....

Have you ever successfully dismantled the gauge itself and repaired the internal parts of the gauge? Even though I bought one on ebay from the fellow in Holland I'd like to repair and use the old gauge if possible...

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Re: Repairing a temperature gauge
Reply #4 - 03/07/13 at 03:38:24
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That really is a good right up.  I'm glad you were able to save it.  In the interest of full disclosure, I wish I would have known it didn't work when I sent it your way.  I guess everything works out when you got your skills!! Smiley

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Re: Repairing a temperature gauge
Reply #5 - 03/07/13 at 03:44:13
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Eh, don't worry about it. Do you know how hard it was finding one one that wasn't broken in an obvious way, or had the glass cracked? Not to mention I needed a nice one to match my others. I have since found a better amp gauge too. I like trying to save original stuff anyways. Wink Thanks Tim!  Smiley

I have never taken one apart, so I can't tell you anything there. Maybe you can try it and further expand on this post.

The next thing I have to do is replace my oil gauge. As you can see, it is starting to leak... And now, almost year later, the oil is all the way across the dash... I have another gauge with patina to replace it with at least.
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Re: Repairing a temperature gauge
Reply #6 - 03/07/13 at 04:11:09
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Next time put the bulb and as much of the copper tube into dry ice and keep it there as you solder the two tubes together. Constant cooling will eliminate any loss of the ether while soldering. The issue is, just how much of the ether is still in a defective temp gauge.
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Reply #7 - 03/07/13 at 12:34:40
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I think a night in the freezer is enough to keep it cold along with the bulb being submerged in a block of ice.  Wink

Up here, dry ice is expensive and you have to buy a minimum amount which is a couple pounds I think. It doesn't have to be more complicated than it has to be.

This is a really good guide to fixing and calibrating it too.

http://www.ply33.com/repair/tempgauge
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Reply #8 - 03/07/13 at 19:42:53
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If I can find a practice temp gauge I'll take that apart first before trying the one I want to save.....I'll post my results...

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Reply #9 - 03/08/13 at 00:16:06
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You could try it on a cheapy autozone one.
  

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