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Reply #15 - 09/08/12 at 14:51:30
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We did some nice trails today in the afternoon. We went to Comb Ridge for lunch at 6000 ft. We were 1000 ft above the bottom.



We met some friends of Calvin coming down the dugway behind us. They were scoping out the trail for an ATV Safari run. We let them by because they travel much faster than Jeeps do even on the rough road we were on. Believe me, it was a very rocky and rough road even if it doesn't look like it.




This is Calvin below me on a switch back on Comb dugway.




This is Lucille standing next to a stalactite in Stalactite Cave. It's an unusual formation for this part of the country. It was at the top of a long steep climb.




This is pictographs that are on a large stone on the top of a hill. It was a long steep climb again but worth it. Calvin and Lucille said there was probably a watch tower on top of the rock. It was a very large rock and about 50 ft tall.




This is 2 ft of sand deposited last spring in Arch Canyon where Betty, Lucille and Calvin's sister sat while Calvin and I tried to rescue my Jeep last year.




These are some ruins I found last year while looking for a way to walk out of Arch Canyon to rescue my Jeep. Calvin and I climbed up to see them last year. He said he had never noticed them before I pointed them out last year.




This is the trench I got stuck in last year. The County road department worked it over last year and again this spring. It is easily passable now if we don't get a heavy rain. We will visit Arch Canyon again this year with several Jeeps.



  
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Reply #16 - 09/09/12 at 04:36:05
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Today we went to a trail Calvin found this spring while flying over it. In June he and four other Jeeps drove the trail. Today when we went through the trail we could hardly find trace of the trip they took 3 months ago. It had rained since their trip and today. That proves a good rain will wash out traces of Jeep travels. We also noticed that most the water crossed the roads rather than ran the length of them. That makes the BLM statements that Jeeps leaves tracks for centuries. In one place near the end of the trail Calvin was driving my Jeep and it went up to the wheel hubs in wet sand but he forged on through. We both thought we were going to have to winch it out. The CJ5 behind us went so fast he got air three times crossing the sand trap.

The first photo is a very rocky spot with some twisting turns. Look out rocks, here I come.



Geez, stuck again. Well, at least it's not a water filled trench. I decided not to dig out or winch out. The three boys and Calvin and Kerry pushed me back and I took another try and blasted by way across.



This is the remains of two watch towers and a stone wall on the top of two large boulders. There is a stairway and trap door in the crack between the two boulders. The towers seem to be protecting a large spring below them and possibly some dwelling behind the towers on the ridge above. We will look for dwelling remains when we fly over next week.



The Native Americans must have had some free time. They gave us some excellent pictographs to look at and admire. The horse is excellent.



This is a cave with one entrance and two exits leading to the land above. You can crawl through but we didn't do it. Calvin and Lucille did it in June.



It was a long trail with several very rough spots that tested the articulation ability of Jeeps and the ability to go through deep dry sand and deep wet sand. It was a good overall test of the Jeeps ability to go anywhere within reason.
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Re: Trip to Blanding Utah
Reply #17 - 09/11/12 at 05:16:01
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Today Calvin was busy so I went out by myself. I went to a trail we thought would lead to another trail we wanted to take and hoped it would be a shortcut loop, it wasn't. I drove a short way in and took a photo of Annabel, she like me to photograph her.



As I was creeping along the trail, 4whl, low range, low gear, looking for ruins I found this one. It looks like some of the wall was pushed down or fell down but it's on a steep wall or so it appears.



This shows how rough the Canyon is. It's not real wide but it's a very rough ATV trail not a Jeep trail so I had many tight turns and I was hit by tree limbs many times.



Annabel must like to play in the sand. I thought it would be an average stream bed crossing but no, the angle of attack was wrong and there was to much loose sand and steep banks. Then there was the large rock right behind me when Annabel failed to climb the bank on the other side. Because Calvin persuaded me to put a winch on I was able to pull poor Annabel out of the sand. Problem is, the road ended about 1/8 mile ahead.



At the end of the road there was a barbed wire fence across the stream bed and a steep drop off. I looked around and found another ruin so I walked ahead and got a better view and snapped a photo. This ruin looks to be intact and somewhat large. Calvin and I are going to that trail tomorrow to explore one or both of the ruins. Stay tuned. BTW, getting back across the place Annabel got stuck was easier she and I are learning how to do it better now. I really think she was tired and didn't want to play in the sand again.

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Re: Trip to Blanding Utah
Reply #18 - 09/11/12 at 21:43:19
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We went back and acted like two teenagers making a find. Other than getting slapped around by tree limbs the trip in was easy. Here we are climbing out of a wash.



So, you think there is a road ahead huh!

We made it through Annabel's sand box at the end of the trail this time. She felt sorry for us, we had a long climb ahead.



The next ten photo's will be links because I want you to see what we did and it was a great feeling when we got our breath back from the long steep climb. Calvin is much better at climbing than I am but we made it. We felt like two kids in a magic world. You could see where the campfire smoke was on the ceiling. Some of the South wall had fallen down and left a wide opening that we figured they would have a wall over. There is a little port hole in the wall they could peep out of. They would cover the openings with hides or blankets. There was a space at the top of the wall to let the smoke out. Someone had been there in 1983 and put his name and date in crayon on one of the stones. There was nothing remaining of the Indians in the ruin.

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Annabel sure likes to play in the sand so we had to drag her out so we could go home. She wanted to stay and play awhile but we were getting hungry. I have been through here three times before and she never wanted to stop until now.



No Annabel, I'm not pulling you out, the winch and a large bush will do it so quit complaining.



We went home to eat lunch after a good fun morning ride.
  
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Re: Trip to Blanding Utah
Reply #19 - 09/16/12 at 02:19:34
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Calvin and I have been very busy the last two days. After a hard day rock climbing on a trail in the Blue Mountains to a ruin Calvin had a problem. He got to a friends home and the Jeep started squealing. It turned out to be the pilot bushing so we had to pull the tranny, etc and replace the bushing. We had four of us working on it at times. We also discovered the rear transfer case output shaft bearings had to much end play so we reset that. We had it out for a test run today so I will post more trips later tonight.
  
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Reply #20 - 09/16/12 at 03:37:24
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Yep, I'm a bit troubled that with just over 3000 miles since the overhauled engine, transmission (including a new pilot bushing), etc., were installed the pilot bushing started squealing and dragging on the main drive gear.  Was it my bad mechanic skills or a not-so-good pilot bushing? In any case it was good to have Carl here with his years of diesel mechanic experience as well as having recently installed a CJ-3A engine and tranny himself to help me out with the task.  

My Jeep back where it went through its restoration 5 years ago--the airplane maintenance shop at the airport.




Yep, bad pilot bushing alright.




Carl's final inspection before re-installation.

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Reply #21 - 09/16/12 at 03:39:26
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Two days ago we went to Dry Wash Cave and the trail was steep and VERY rough with large rocks in the trail. We almost lost Lucille but Emily pulled her back in the Jeep. Here I am coming up after Calvin and getting air with the front wheels. It pushed be back and forth up the road bouncing around. It was almost like rock climbing.



At the top we found the ruins high on the bluff. One had what looked like the remains of a pole bridge across the gap.



We climbed up to view a near perfect Anasazi structure. It may have been a food storage area as it's not built like a dwelling structure.



Here we are resting before our decent down the hard trail. Going down was MUCH easier than climbing the large moving rocks.

  
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Reply #22 - 09/16/12 at 04:41:13
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Here are a few more pics of the same trip as my camera saw it:

Nice mountain trail.




Steeper and rougher.




Becoming quite a climb.




Our destination was the cliff dwelling ruins posted above by Carl. 
Here is a group shot just before departing.




Heading back down.




Stopping for the CJ-5 that broke a front drive shaft universal just BEFORE we got to the rough stuff. 




View of the landscape from the road back to civilization.

  

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Reply #23 - 09/16/12 at 05:29:02
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Today we went to Spirit Cave and another Anasazi cave ruin in a tributary of West Water Canyon. This is a some of the ruins in Spirit Cave. I should mention that what is called a cave in most of the ruins is an opening under some shelf rock. It's not really a cave but just an open area under the shelf. Spirit cave had several damaged ruins that were not real interesting. It was on my list to see but Calvin said it wasn't real interesting. I took several photo's there but nothing really stood out.



These next series of photo's are in a tributary of West Water Canyon. They are very interesting and few people visit them.



This is a shot of a wall with spy holes pointing in several different directions so they can see everything in the canyon below without looking over the wall or leaving the room.



This is a shot of the logs supporting the doorway. The logs are tied together with cords made of the Yucca plant. It was amazing to look at what they did and how they did it. This site is amazing as you will soon see.



This is a photo of a two story ruin wall. You can see the holes in the wall for the logs to support the floor. Some of the ruins in Mesa Verde have four or five floors but the ruins here don't have that many.



Here are some remains of the logs in a wall for the second story floor.



Here is a photo of the most important thing that Calvin wanted to show me at this site. I was overwhelmed at seeing this. To think that as the Native American was building the wall he raised his child up and pressed it's foot print into the wall is something that must have been done from the earliest times. It's a personal touch that adds realism and passion to these ruins. The ball point pen gives a size comparison for you.



These are the remains of a Kiva, pronounced keva, and they are always round with a fire pit and places to sit around the wall. It's a meeting place for the families and it's also used for their ceremonies.



This gives a perspective as to the size of the Kiva. I sat down waiting for the ceremonies to begin but no one but us showed up.



Well, goodnight everyone. This is a sunset shot when we left a nearby farm with canyons to drive in. Pilots will recognize the cloud formations. Calvin said they are called virga dropping from the clouds.

 





 



  
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Reply #24 - 09/19/12 at 04:50:51
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Today Calvin and I visited a ruin by Bluff called 17 room ruin and it did have 17 rooms.



This is a view out from the ruin looking toward San Juan River and where a cable walking bridge crossed the river years ago.



This shows the rooms in the ruin. See the darker lower wall in the distance, it was the first rooms and later the lighter mud walls and second floor were added to it. There was another room at the far end with posts and holes drilled into the stone floor.



This is one of the post holes and a possible miss start for one. There were three holes for posts and the wall may have been thatched but there was some evidence of mud mortar on the floor. It was a narrow long wedge shaped room.

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Reply #25 - 09/19/12 at 13:35:39
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Carl. that looks like you are having the trip of a lifetime. You are very blessed to have the opportunity to see that from the air... Incredible pictures. Can you imagine how long it took to build those walls way back then with only manual means for construction?

It is surprising some entrepreneur hasn't conrnered the market on helicopter rides to see those ruins. Or that there is n't a fourn lane blacktop, parking lots, visitors center, and snack bar at the top..  Grin

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Reply #26 - 09/20/12 at 16:02:11
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It has not been commercialized so not many know about what is here. Only the hikers, horse riders, ATV and Jeep drivers know about the beauty of the area. There are a few ATV tours available but that's all. I think Calvin and some of those that know the area well could do tours for a living if the BLM were not closing all the trails to anything but hiking.

It's a shame we will no longer be able to drive the trails and visit the sites. Some of the sites would take several days to hike to.
  
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Reply #27 - 09/26/12 at 04:13:35
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Ok, after a little trip to Salt Lake City to pick up the wife we are Jeeping again. Mac and Robyn joined us in their white CJ3A Jeep and we spent a rainy morning working on Mac's Jeep. Around noon when it quit raining we saw snow on the Blue mountains but it was gone by late afternoon.



In the afternoon we went to Redd's farm for some trail riding in the mud and rocks. We are passing through a wash after driving down a muddy entry road. Mac has wide street tires on his Jeep and they really loaded up with mud but he still went everywhere we did.



We went around a trail that Calvin and I laid out but I went up a hill at the end of the loop that Calvin and Mac would be coming down. I went the opposite direction they were going and I met them on the trail then turned around and led them back to this spot.



I call this mushroom rock. It's on a ledge at the top by my Jeep.



Dave drove his trail bike out to be with us on the trail so he took some shots of us as we came down the hill that ended the trail. The hill doesn't look as steep as it really is. It's hard to show how rough or steep things are in a photo. This hill is about 45 deg and loose dirt and rock and is hard to climb.

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Reply #28 - 09/26/12 at 05:10:18
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It was good to have Mac (Macgraham) and his wife, Robyn, come all the way from Western Arizona with his newly restored CJ-3A to join us on some trails.  So this week Carl, Mac, and I will be cruising the trails in our vintage Jeeps.

Above, in Carlsjeep post you see Mac and his Jeep in action.  I have added a few pics of this trail ride, the very first one for Mac and his Jeep since the completion of his Jeep restoration.  




Both Jeep and Driver are doing well.




Still coming.




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Reply #29 - 09/27/12 at 17:25:13
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Carl, how much longer will these trails be open? I'd love to visit those in person.
  
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