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pass side head light wires / speedo cable
« on: December 09, 2020, 10:46:09 AM »
i've had the old girl torn  down for way to long. the pass side head light wires go under the grill shell ?  and the speedo cable any tips as to were not to run it ? and were does it go in to the tub ? at the fire wall or the floor ?

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Re: pass side head light wires / speedo cable
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2020, 11:03:50 AM »
What year and model?
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Re: pass side head light wires / speedo cable
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2020, 02:11:51 PM »
In this link, there is a nice picture of the firewall for the 2A/3A placement of the firewall penetrations.
https://www.thecj2apage.com/forums/topic4406&OB=DESC.html



On a 2A/3A, the passenger side headlamp and park light went below the grille. 

Note: I had to run mine across the top of the grille because the Walck's harness that includes a bigger loom to accommodate the turn signal wires, it didn't fit below. 
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Re: pass side head light wires / speedo cable
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2020, 09:29:26 PM »
  Sorry, Tim, but on all of my CJ2-A's and my CJ3B, the RHS headlight wires run across the top of the grille, on the "spacer" ahead of the radiator. On the CJ2-A's the wire for the RHS parking light wire runs underneath the grille (Why? I dunno), but the CJ3B has the parking light wire inside the headlight harness across the top. I don't have a CJ3A :(, so I can't speak for them. Incidentally, my GPW is the same as the CJ2-A's.
  The speedometer cable? Tim's link should show you which firewall hole it should come out of, and from there, there's not many ways it can go. If it's long enough, it can go inside the frame rail for a little bit. Just keep it from rubbing on the front driveshaft
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Re: pass side head light wires / speedo cable
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2020, 10:49:00 PM »
There are images of Lawrence Wade's '55 CJ-3B  on the CJ3B Page that show most of this (from the perspective of a 3B) here:

https://cj3b.info/Owners/WadeDetails.html

Look at the "Grill" brace, the Firewall and under the "Air Cleaner" to see how the harness and the speedo cable was routed.
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Re: pass side head light wires / speedo cable
« Reply #5 on: December 10, 2020, 09:24:35 PM »
Here are a couple pictures.

The gray one is the  1951 CJ-3a.

The red is the 55 CJ-5.

The CJ-5 has turn signals so there is an extra wire outside the normal loom.

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Re: pass side head light wires / speedo cable
« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2020, 10:33:44 AM »
What year and model?


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Re: pass side head light wires / speedo cable
« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2020, 10:45:19 AM »
There are images of Lawrence Wade's '55 CJ-3B  on the CJ3B Page that show most of this (from the perspective of a 3B) here:

https://cj3b.info/Owners/WadeDetails.html

Look at the "Grill" brace, the Firewall and under the "Air Cleaner" to see how the harness and the speedo cable was routed.

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Re: pass side head light wires / speedo cable
« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2020, 10:58:02 AM »
There are images of Lawrence Wade's '55 CJ-3B  on the CJ3B Page that show most of this (from the perspective of a 3B) here:

https://cj3b.info/Owners/WadeDetails.html

Look at the "Grill" brace, the Firewall and under the "Air Cleaner" to see how the harness and the speedo cable was routed.

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Re: pass side head light wires / speedo cable
« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2020, 11:01:16 AM »
Here are a couple pictures.

The gray one is the  1951 CJ-3a.

The red is the 55 CJ-5.

The CJ-5 has turn signals so there is an extra wire outside the normal loom.

hum..  i never thought that the head light wires should come out the top ???

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Re: pass side head light wires / speedo cable
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2020, 03:56:28 PM »
I may be mistaken.  It's been a while now, but I found wire loom clips and old loom remnants along the lower edge of my 3A grille, so I asked Bob Westerman about that.  I believe he left me with the impression that all or part of the passenger side wires were down there.  Maybe it was just the park light wire...? Maybe I'm smokin' dope. :)   

EDIT::Okay, I found an original 2A grill picture posted by Ryan M over at the 2A page.  Scroll down a bit to see the 2A grill with the lower wire loom.  It was for the park light  wire only...

https://www.thecj2apage.com/forums/cable-clip-locations-etc_topic36740.html

At the time I was putting my green 3A together, I was thrown off by the Walck's wire harness containing both the headlight wires and the park light wires in a single loom, thus my question to Bob Westerman.
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Re: pass side head light wires / speedo cable
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2020, 06:18:26 PM »
Here are pics of my original '62 DJ3A showing wires on top of grill including turn signals.  Headlights fed from top as well.  Hope it helps.  BTW, My passenger side brake line was held with a "clip" under the grill on the cross arm.
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Re: pass side head light wires / speedo cable
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2020, 08:32:15 AM »
I may be mistaken.  It's been a while now, but I found wire loom clips and old loom remnants along the lower edge of my 3A grille, so I asked Bob Westerman about that.  I believe he left me with the impression that all or part of the passenger side wires were down there.  Maybe it was just the park light wire...? Maybe I'm smokin' dope. :)   

EDIT::Okay, I found an original 2A grill picture posted by Ryan M over at the 2A page.  Scroll down a bit to see the 2A grill with the lower wire loom.  It was for the park light  wire only...

https://www.thecj2apage.com/forums/cable-clip-locations-etc_topic36740.html

At the time I was putting my green 3A together, I was thrown off by the Walck's wire harness containing both the headlight wires and the park light wires in a single loom, thus my question to Bob Westerman.

Sorry my answer was confusing. On the CJ-3A the right side headlight wires go on top, and the park light wire goes on the bottom. I'm not sure why the Walck's harness has the park light wire in with the headlight wires.
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Re: pass side head light wires / speedo cable
« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2020, 11:06:24 AM »
I would guess that the "one size fits all" approach to making it easier for the seller might be a part of this.  I believe the CJ-3B does this (headlight/parking light in the same loom).  When I ordered mine - to include wiring for turn signals - I ended up with an additional loomed wire that barely fit under the harness clip meant to secure the headlight/parking light wires.

If the owner knows (I didn't know anything since my harness was just a mass of loose wires) what is needed or what is wanted, they can ask the seller to incorporate that need.  Then it'll be a beneficial conversation starter at the next Reunion when someone notices!!
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Re: pass side head light wires / speedo cable
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2020, 09:30:06 PM »
I found some pictures taken before I took it apart.....

The picture with the wire circled is the passenger side.
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