Transmission and Transfer Case rebuild

[macrisel]

So the time has come to drop my transmission and transfer case for a rebuild.  When I did my frame off resto I simply cleaned up and painted both of them and have been driving them ever since.  Since completion, I have drove the jeep for a little over a year and loved every minute of it.  I really wanted to do this project last winter, but I never chipped out enough time.

Well, as bad as i hate to do it in prime Jeep season, I have some time now.  Besides, the more I drive it, the larger the pools get in the garage from bad seals. 

The good news: the only issues I have (besides the massive leaks) are some grinding from 2nd to 3rd if I shift too fast.  I am thinking/hoping that I may only need need new synchros plus the normal small parts kit.

The bad news:  I have been unable to find any NOS blocking rings anywhere.  I have checked ebay, walcks, kaiser willys, novak's, DL Bensinger, Midwest Willys, Willys America, Northstar Willys and several other jeep sites.  Peter DeBella "might" have some NOS or US parts but wouldn't commit to it until I order.

Does anyone have some NOS ones or US made rings they want to part with or know of another recent source?

[1955CJ-5]

Could you just replace the seals for now? I think you could do that without pulling the transmission...and you could collect the parts and rebuild later..

I got my kit from Herm, the overdrive guy, but I don't know where he gets the various parts....the gasket kits were from Crown...

I though I'd found you some syncro rings on ebay but they were for a t-84......but you could check the numbers and see....

http://www.ebay.com/itm/194166-Willys-Jeep-T84T96-3-speed-syncronizer-rings-/360324959894


And you might try midwest military, Ron Fitzpatrick/G503 and Brent Mullins....

[macrisel]

I had tried Midwest willys, no luck.  When I called Herm, I spoke with someone who assured me that the blocking rings they had were NOT Omix or Crown and that their synchro assembly and second gear were US made parts.  They also stated they rebuild three or four T-90 transmissions a week using these parts with no issues.  When I spoke with Novak, they said the same thing about their Crown blocking rings.

I saw the T-86 rings on ebay also.  Seems like there are several vendors out there that have NOS rings for them.

Small rant...............how in the world is there no good parts for these transmissions?!?!  This tranny was in use for over 20 years and used in several different vehicles.  There had to be over a million transmissions made and no US company can make parts easily available?  I would think there has to be a market for them still............rant over....

[1955CJ-5]

rant X2

[Ryan_M]

For what it's worth I have over 4000 miles on the "installed-before-I-knew-any-better" Crown blocking rings in my 3A and so far so good. Hopefully I'm not jinxing myself by gloating about it here. The tranny leaks like a sieve but that has more to do with the moron who assembled it than the quality of any parts.

Even with that said, I'd still be on the hunt for NOS parts if I had to do another one. I did use NOS stuff on my second T-90 rebuild (for the M38). Incidentally, that one barely leaks at all and was rebuilt by the same moron - his skills are either improving or he just got lucky that day.

[Quebec Jeep]

Hey Ryan, I feel like a moron maybe as much as you! Are you the moron?� :-? 

[calvinhunt]

Hey Gents,
This is the first time I've been logged on in a while.  I may be a bit out of sync here, but as far a quality tranny parts I have to suggest Novak Conversions in Logan, Utah.  When Carl (Carl's Jeep) had his tranny apart I suggested Novak's and I think he had a good outcome with their locally manufactured quality parts. 
Like Ryan, I had a "before-I-Knew -better" overhaul and then did it again with NOS parts.  Both were before Carl went into his tranny. 
Novak's does all kinds of Jeep mods and conversions and manufactures their own parts. Google them.  I think you'll like what you find.

[Carls_jeep]

I suggest you buy a complete NOS synchronizer assembly from Contact jim@fiftiesfordparts.com he sells them for $50 plus shipping.

It has the complete sycro and two blocking rings.

[calvinhunt]

Carl and I both purchased a NOS synchro complete from this guy.  I thought of this when I responded earlier but didn't think he'd have any left.  I hope he does. 

[macrisel]

Thanks everyone, I have sent him an email.  Unfortunately, I'm running out of time to work on my project and if I don't hear back from him soon, I will probably order from Herm.  He assured me his synchro and rings were US made quality parts that they use in all their rebuilt transmissions they sell and that he would stand behind them.

Time to hurry up and wait!

Good to see you back online Calvin!

[Carls_jeep]

The parts in our trannys are used in a lot of Borg Warner trannys. He probably can tell us more about cross reference numbers. I suspect Borg Warner still makes some of them.

[macrisel]

Well, I never heard from the other individual so I went ahead and ordered from Herm.� Chances are I either typed in the email incorrectly or my message was routed to his junk mail.� I should have the parts in next week so I'll check them out and get them installed.� Herm was great to work with and answered all my questions.� Seems like a great guy.� The only downside people should be aware of is he does not accept credit cards or online payments at this time.� You have to either send him a check through the mail (plan on 5-7 business days for payment to reach him) or wire him the money directly (banks usually charge a $20-$30 fee for this).

I guess I might tear the t-case apart also while I wait for parts!�

[Carls_jeep]

You could send him a money order. The Postal money orders are as good as gold.

[1955CJ-5]

Hi Mark,

You may have seen this...it was posted recently on the 2a site..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72fqfC5EXE8&feature=youtu.be

I haven't watched the whole video yet but it is interesting so far!

[macrisel]

Very nice video!  That link probably needs to be added to our transmission section.  The guy does a pretty good job of explaining things and showing how to do it in plain English.

I especially like the cursing when he dumps some needle bearings...that will probably be me!