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Bedliner on undercarriage?
« on: December 05, 2013, 10:58:15 PM »
Hi
I did a search on this but came up with nothing.� The 2a forum and the net in general seem to be undecided.� So, has anyone bedlined the bottom side and/or the floor?� The tintable stuff looks appealing.� �Since I've concluded my body isn't stock I'm thinking about it.� I've seen some nice results at the 2a forum.� Body will be blasted and prepped properly before application.� Also thinking about another fuel tank on the passengers side since there is no toolbox!

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John

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Re: Bedliner on undercarriage?
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2013, 01:43:41 AM »
I'm going to do it myself.� Herculiner.� I used it on parts of my other rig (a Grand Wagoneer), and the only issue I had was fading in the sun.� But even that was fixed with an occasional spray of tire foam.� And obviously that won't matter if it's undercoating.

Oh yeah, and the prep work isn't brutal.  Scuff hard, wipe with acetone or xylene, let dry, and then roll it on.
« Last Edit: December 06, 2013, 01:45:00 AM by 4x4Dad »
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Re: Bedliner on undercarriage?
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2013, 07:13:26 AM »
It's your rig and free to do what you want but there are 3 things I really dislike on a vehicle.  Diamond plate, powder coating and bed-lined body panels.
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Re: Bedliner on undercarriage?
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2013, 07:24:18 AM »
I wouldn't do it. That stuff it is a real PITA to get off...
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Re: Bedliner on undercarriage?
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2013, 08:22:16 AM »
Thanks for the input.� I happened to meet another guy who restored his 3A in my small town, and he had a WillysOverland repop body that he had optioned with the Berliner.� Looked really good.� I'll agree that it is probably terrible to remove.
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Re: Bedliner on undercarriage?
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2013, 10:04:29 AM »
I have to agree with Bretto and G-Gnome. 

From my perspective, when I'm surfing the eWillys web site, I scrowl right by a bedlined Willys.  IMHO it's a resale killer.

But, it is yours to do what you want.

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Re: Bedliner on undercarriage?
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2013, 10:41:47 AM »
I would say go for it, at least in the wheel wells or something. Gravel roads have already started wearing into my paint in those areas.

* It might be a good idea to get rid of any wood blocks in the floor supports and fenders before you bed lined

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Re: Bedliner on undercarriage?
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2013, 10:49:12 AM »
It will separate from the metal and start rusting underneath where you can't see what is going on.

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Re: Bedliner on undercarriage?
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2013, 03:23:34 PM »
I agree with those who have spoken out against it on the exterior of a Willys.  I won't be doing that either.  In fact, a friend of mine covered the entire exterior (and I mean, the entire exterior--hood, fenders, cabin, windshield frame, rollbar, etc.) of her CJ5 with ORANGE bedliner.  That sucker was ugly all day.
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Re: Bedliner on undercarriage?
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2013, 08:48:23 AM »
I put the roll on stuff on the inside of the wheel wells and front fenders, mixed results I'd say.  I decided to do it for reasons stated above, gravel roads were chewing out the fenders and wrecking the paint.  I probably did not do enough prep work as I now have large areas where the Herculiner is peeling off.  The paint underneath is just like it was, so I guess I didn't lose any ground.  It seemed to protect the body where it was applied right. 

Triple X was never intended to be a factory resto, just a good driving good looking jeep so its got some of Brettos not so favorite items, at least the diamond plate isn't bright aluminum, is that OK Bretto?
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Re: Bedliner on undercarriage?
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2013, 05:56:38 PM »
Back when the jeeps were new, the farmers sprayed the whole underneith with used motor oil, then drove on a dusty road a ways.  Did that a time or to, and most everything was rustproofed!
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Re: Bedliner on undercarriage?
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2013, 12:35:59 PM »
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It will separate from the metal and start rusting underneath where you can't see what is going on.

This would also be my greatest concern.  All of it will separate to some degree and I hate Herculiner.  I did put some Turboliner on the exterior of my 3B.  I ran a strip about 2" wide around the the side of the tub and on the rail where the top snaps down, and on the cowel where the windshield sits.  All the places I couldn't keep paint on.  I also did the hood as we are inclined to throw boots and other stuff on there when out in the boonies.  It also cut the sun glare.  Tubroliner isn't quite as obnoxious as some of the liners.  Fine textured and relatively hard.

I'm not big on diamond plate either but did make my front fender support/steps from it to minimize slipping when standing on them.

The absolutely most ugly Jeep I have ever seen was a 2A completely coated with red Herc.  At least it was good camo for vomit.
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Re: Bedliner on undercarriage?
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2013, 07:06:33 AM »
It depends on what result you want. The body on my 49 is terrible.� Hugh Bondo patches mixed in with Metal pieces over original rust areas.� I even have rivets on the outside panels for some reason.� I just wanted one color that could be applied cheaply at home so I used roll on Monstaliner in Blood Red.�

Having said that, I really like the result.� It has an orange peel texture that is smooth and it hides a lot of the flaws.� When I do end up either fixing or replacing the tub I would consider using it again.� Resell value doesn't bother me as I don't plan on ever selling it.� The plus side is I don't have to be gentle with it in the garage or worry about scratches.�

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Re: Bedliner on undercarriage?
« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2013, 09:18:56 PM »
Wow!  For those of us who are not capable to bring the jeep to concours condition and want a serviceable covering this looks great!   More pics please!


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Re: Bedliner on undercarriage?
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2013, 07:09:14 AM »
Here is a link to my Photo Bucket album with some paint and body pictures.

http://s1282.photobucket.com/user/RealOpOverlord/embed/slideshow/Paint%20and%20Body

The Monstaliner covers a lot of bad body work but I'm doing a rolling restoration and it works for what it is at this stage of my build.� On a side note, all the reasons for using bedliner are� all the same reasons to avoid buying a Jeep that has it bed lined unless you go into it knowing that it could be pretty ugly underneath.�
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