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Willys Axles
« on: October 29, 2013, 10:38:40 PM »
Another Willys curiosity...

I have 2 1949 CJ3As.� They both have the Dana 25 and 41 axle combinations.� Whitey, the current project, has these perches above the spring mounts on both front and rear axles.� ODie the green Willys, does not have them on either axle.� I've seen a few axles lately.� Most seem to have the perch.�

What are they there for? And why don't I have them on ODie?





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Re: Willys Axles
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2013, 01:45:57 AM »
I have a Dana 41 on my 3A also but no perch like your.
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Re: Willys Axles
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2013, 06:31:26 AM »
The perches are where the rubber bump stops hit when the vehicle is bottomed out. Generally CJ-2As have the extra perch and CJ-3As don't. Of course you can't make any generalizations like that because there are always exceptions. I've gotta think they were eliminated to save money. Just like today, saving a few dollars on every vehicle really adds up. Tim, what are the assembly dates and/or ring gear dates on those axles?
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Re: Willys Axles
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2013, 07:12:48 AM »
Ive only seen them on 2as also.
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Re: Willys Axles
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2013, 07:17:13 AM »
Neither of my 50's have them and they both have 41 rears
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Re: Willys Axles
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2013, 10:02:57 AM »
Bob,
I�ll get the manufacture dates tonight.� Not knowing for sure if the axles are original to these Willys, I can offer this;

The 41 and 25 that have the perches are on CJ3A #13655--a fairly early '49 3A.
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The 41 and 25 without the perches ore on� �CJ3A #36662-- a fairly late '49 3A.

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Re: Willys Axles
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2013, 04:35:26 PM »
My early '49 3A (28833) has the perch on both axles.

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Re: Willys Axles
« Reply #7 on: October 30, 2013, 07:49:16 PM »
Bob,
Dana 25 with Perch...Outside marking is tough to read.  1 24 48... Of course, the last digit is the hardest to make out, so not sure on the '8'.   Same axle...ring gear...  1 12 49E

I can't make out any date markings on the exterior of the  axle with no perch.  Either too many coats of paint or no date marking at all.  I am looking at the raised donut shaped area on the front of the axle.  Is there another place to look without opening up the diff?

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Re: Willys Axles
« Reply #8 on: October 30, 2013, 08:59:01 PM »
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Dana 25 with Perch...Outside marking is tough to read.� 1 24 48... Of course, the last digit is the hardest to make out, so not sure on the '8'.� �Same axle...ring gear...� 1 12 49E

I can't make out any date markings on the exterior of the� axle with no perch.� Either too many coats of paint or no date marking at all.� I am looking at the raised donut shaped area on the front of the axle.� Is there another place to look without opening up the diff?

Tim


The axle assembly date is probably 1 24 49 since it had to be assembled after the ring gear was made on 1 12 49.

At some point they began to put the axle assembly date on the tube instead of on the donut. Try looking at the area inside the circle in this photo...

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Re: Willys Axles
« Reply #9 on: October 30, 2013, 09:21:09 PM »
My '49', #11159 has perches on both front and rear.
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