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Re: Captive/Captured nut?
« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2013, 10:51:34 AM »
It was not an elevator bolt, or stove bolt, with the square at the base of the head.  Not ribbed like a wheel stud.  I was simply as shown in my sketch below.  If I remember correctly at the local hardware store there were two types: one was slotted and the other had an allen drive.  The allen drive was a better quality bolt.  I prepared the hole by gently tapping the metal around the hole inwards to accept the tapered head.  After it was "caved in" about right I turned a large drill bit a couple of turns with a half inch drill motor to true up the hole for a better fit.


For a spacer under the tank I cut two strips of quality rubber sheet about and eighth inch think, two inches wide, and placed them on the floor.  I used rubber contact cement to keep them in place.  It has been good because from time to time I actually spray water from a hose under there to keep it cleaned out.  Seems to work well.
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Re: Captive/Captured nut?
« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2013, 11:11:00 AM »
Thanks Calvin,

The allen drive sounds best...I avoid slotted hardware whenever possible..

I may glue down a few of those body-to-frame insulators....or maybe cut up an old tire sidewall..I want to avoid anything that may absorb water, just as you did.
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Re: Captive/Captured nut?
« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2013, 01:49:11 PM »
For the body-to-frame I actually used the tread portion of an old tire (bias-ply nylon) rather than the sidewall.  It provided more rubber.  Here is a pic. 

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Re: Captive/Captured nut?
« Reply #18 on: August 04, 2013, 07:56:58 PM »
Back to the the captured nut...

All they need is a little grinding..

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Re: Captive/Captured nut?
« Reply #19 on: August 05, 2013, 10:16:01 AM »
For my mounting bolt under the tank, I took a normal hex head bolt and headed to the grinder.  I ground the head of the bolt down to about half of the original thickness.  For spacers, I used an old heavy, rubber mud flap off of a dump truck and cut it into 2" strips as shown on Bob Westerman's 3A site.  I think the mud flap even had the famous naked lady outline on it.... ;D

However, i had my tub on and off so many times I think I ended up leaving that bolt out for the final install.  My jeep is primarly for show and paved roads and I didn't think the tub was going to fly off without that bolt in there.  Plus, I had a nagging feeling in my mind that my "Bubba bolt" would work loose and end up rubbing a hole in my fuel tank.  Bad enough I'm sitting on top of 10 gallons of flammable liquid in a 60 year old tank.....I didn't want to tempt fate even more.

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Re: Captive/Captured nut?
« Reply #20 on: August 05, 2013, 11:09:23 AM »
The mud flap is a great idea....I'll watch for one on the side of the road and then risk my life trying to retrieve it!

What a place for a bolt, and what a place for a gas tank.....
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Re: Captive/Captured nut?
« Reply #21 on: August 05, 2013, 11:13:53 AM »
I just had another idea....maybe I'll use the old windshield-to-cowl rubber seal.....
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Re: Captive/Captured nut?
« Reply #22 on: August 11, 2013, 06:44:41 PM »
Fearing a visit from the jeep police, I decided to take matters into my own hands and make a caged/captured nut for under the driver seat....





Well, this is just the cage.....nut to follow.....
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Re: Captive/Captured nut?
« Reply #23 on: August 11, 2013, 11:59:04 PM »
Looking Good!  Really Good!!!
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Re: Captive/Captured nut?
« Reply #24 on: August 12, 2013, 09:10:35 PM »
Thanks Calvin....

Here is the rest of the story...



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Re: Captive/Captured nut?
« Reply #25 on: August 13, 2013, 06:28:48 AM »
Pretty cool.   I love home a fab work.
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