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Re: Too rusty to save?
« Reply #120 on: April 06, 2013, 05:59:14 PM »
Went after the drivers side "step" today..










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Re: Too rusty to save?
« Reply #121 on: April 06, 2013, 06:01:26 PM »
And did some work on the cowl brace..








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Re: Too rusty to save?
« Reply #122 on: April 06, 2013, 06:03:34 PM »
Looks OK to me, a little more hammering and a little filler....that white powder coating is the residue from POR-15 "Prep and Ready"..its supposed to inhibit rust and prep for primer..

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Re: Too rusty to save?
« Reply #123 on: April 06, 2013, 06:04:39 PM »
This is just to see if I've broken the code on those larger images...




Edit:  I guess not.....
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Re: Too rusty to save?
« Reply #124 on: April 06, 2013, 07:52:53 PM »
Actually the small images open almost instantly, and if you are loading a page like this with a lot of pictures it is good to have the smaller pics to keep the load time down. We can always click on your pics for a big version.  

Your patches look pretty good, I would check and see if you are getting good penetration to the backside before grinding them down completely. Some of your welds back sides look like your weld is mainly on top of the joint and not thru the seam. Are you going to do any more welding on the floor pan front edges?

Just my 2 cents, everyone does it different but that's the only stuff I'd take a good look at before painting or body filler.  You've done a great job bringing that tub back from the dead.
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Re: Too rusty to save?
« Reply #125 on: April 06, 2013, 09:25:47 PM »
I try to get the welds to penetrate, but �the rusty steel burns through pretty easily. I'm finally learning to fine tune the heat and feed when I have a rusty area, but when I have new steel next to rusty it's tough. I know what you mean though. The fellow who is machining the engine told me to weld from the good steel to the rusty...get the arc going on the good steel and then move to the rusty areas...that works pretty good, but burn through still happens.....the right heat is the trick but it is still a learning process...

Oh, and as with so many things, prep is everything....clean steel, no paint or oil..I grind it clean and then wipe it down with denatured alcohol...

It is sooo much more fun to weld new steel to new steel....It might have been worth it to buy all the parts from the toe boards back and just build a body...

I think someone suggested doing this earlier on!!

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Re: Too rusty to save?
« Reply #126 on: April 06, 2013, 09:41:11 PM »
Well, I just couldn't sit around this afternoon...

The areas where the wheelhouse baffle was attached had rusted...





So I cut it out..

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Re: Too rusty to save?
« Reply #127 on: April 06, 2013, 09:42:36 PM »
Rusty, of course...






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Re: Too rusty to save?
« Reply #128 on: April 06, 2013, 09:45:48 PM »
This is the donor...the old tool box top. It turns out the spacing between the raised ridges is different on  the bed floor and the tops of the wheel houses. The tool box was the least rusted...






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Re: Too rusty to save?
« Reply #129 on: April 06, 2013, 09:54:27 PM »
Bill,

You asked if I planned to do more welding on the floor seams....Right now the plan is to get this tub as solid as I can and then take it off the frame. When the underside is easier to get to I plan to weld everything in sight.... !
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Re: Too rusty to save?
« Reply #130 on: April 06, 2013, 10:32:41 PM »
You're getting there! I'll be doing this on my '49 once my '53 is off the lift and I can drive it.
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Re: Too rusty to save?
« Reply #131 on: April 07, 2013, 03:42:19 PM »
Got the other patch made and installed..




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Re: Too rusty to save?
« Reply #132 on: April 07, 2013, 03:47:32 PM »
And the one on the wheelhouse side...



This area is 16ga steel. Not a lot thicker than the 18 ga but easily twice as difficult to cut...fortunately this is just a flat piece, I don't think I could have formed it at all with my hand tools...




But boy that 16ga sure welds nice...this is the inside, I welded from the other side so it shows the penetration...A little heat and some solid steel make for a nice patch!




I may just cut it out though...why on earth didn't I just replace the whole panel back to the tailgate frame? Didn't even think of it until I was done....

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Re: Too rusty to save?
« Reply #133 on: April 07, 2013, 06:50:26 PM »
Looking good!
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Re: Too rusty to save?
« Reply #134 on: April 07, 2013, 07:42:03 PM »
Thanks Nate!

I think I finally beat that tool box into submission...




When you get it to fit, it just looks right...I'll swap out the lid, strip that primer or whatever it is off and install and re-prime...

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