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Crown Products Headache
« on: June 01, 2011, 11:53:47 PM »
I purchased a crank shaft fan belt pulley from Kaiser Willys made by Crown. My original pulley key slot was just to worn out to put back on my rebuilt engine. It was a double pulley.
I was told the correct one was a single pulley. Received it and its id was so tight, I had to heat it up to get it back off. Which ruined it.
Kaiser did not give a refund even though they said they had trouble with some. So I purchased a second pulley. This time a double. ID fit perfect. BUT this time the outside diameter, register was very pitted, so oil came out from around seal. Called Kaiser and this time, sent at no charge a 3rd pulley. This time outer diameter was out of round, pitted and  to large to fit the seal. I took it to the machine shop to be turned to fit the seal. Which cost more than the pulley. I could of just had the original pulley fixed for less >:(

Has anyone else had problems with Crown products? Kaiser should sell with notice that products are not finished.

Where can you find quality parts for our sweet jeeps?

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Re: Crown Products Headache
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2011, 12:11:44 AM »
Try Walck's! Carl and Daniel will let you know if the part is not a high quality one made overseas. I have found them to be honest. They stand behind their products and will answer your questions when you call. Carl is also having many parts reproduced here in the good 'ol USA.
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Re: Crown Products Headache
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2011, 08:05:51 AM »
Walck's x2

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Re: Crown Products Headache
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2011, 08:37:49 AM »
Walck's X3

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Re: Crown Products Headache
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2011, 12:18:42 PM »
Walcks + 4. I guess there are some reputable suppliers out there but I have such good luck with them I am not searching for another.

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Re: Crown Products Headache
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2011, 09:04:16 PM »
Walcks X 5

Just call them and talk to Carl or Dan. They will tell you what to expect from any part.
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Re: Crown Products Headache
« Reply #6 on: June 03, 2011, 07:31:03 PM »
I've only used Walcks once but it was a smooth transaction. They are very knowledgeable. I used to use Kaiser Willys too but got burned once and will never go back.

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Re: Crown Products Headache
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2011, 10:28:47 PM »
The continuing saga of the crank shaft pulley by Crown! I received the 3rd pulley. The id was fine. od was to large and oblong. Fine! I took it to the machine shop. WELL when I picked it up they informed me the pulley was off center and would possibly throw the belt off. Also would not fit over the Slinger on the timing cover.  Still had to pay for the shaft turning! ARGHHHHH!  This time I called Crown in Atlanta and talked to Steve. He did not care. Just kept telling me to call Kiaser Willys to take care of  it. Company that is rebuilding my motor "Old Inline Motors" Called Steve back to give him specifics so that he could pull the bad batch of pulleys. Again. Did not care. So called Kaiser AGAIN! They gave me full credit and told me to go to a salvage yard. So a lot of time wasted, Machine shop cost and head aches. I could of just rebuilt my old pulley!!
To add to it. The timing gears by Crown have no pitch, 45� so the starter bendex will engage easily. Kaiser said that's the way it suppose to be. Yea RIGHT. I could of just flipped my old one over and would of been the same!!

Talked to several suppliers and have now learned Crown make some quality products and OMIX make some. You just have to ask around to see who has the best parts for your application before you purchase.

I am sticking with salvage parts and rebuilding them!!!!!!  :'(

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Re: Crown Products Headache
« Reply #8 on: June 11, 2011, 08:37:50 AM »
Sorry to hear all the problems you've had with your pulley.

You use "timing gears" and "starter Bendix" in the same sentence and that confuses me. Timing gears are the gears on the front of the crankshft and camshaft. The starter Bendix engages the ring gear on the flywheel. Ring gear teeth are not angled, timing gear teeth are.





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Re: Crown Products Headache
« Reply #9 on: June 11, 2011, 07:22:40 PM »
I would have checked to see if there is a wear sleeve made for your crank pulley seal area before trying to find a new one. If not I would have machined one.

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Re: Crown Products Headache
« Reply #10 on: June 11, 2011, 10:19:47 PM »
Thanks for the info and catching my mistake. Yes I meant the flywheel gear. Good to hear that the flat gear on the fly wheel is correct. BUT! That is not what I am hearing from the old school mechanics and the one Replaced was beveled. I will find out soon enough how it works. Its in the motor and as soon as I find a good crank shaft pulley. I am going out for a joy ride! ;D