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Re: Jeep diesel upgrade?
« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2013, 07:24:59 AM »
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Here's one in action:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3W6QrFM6nyg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NzMbGuLSTU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZPsPQs3wR4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNVfYaS7tcs

That looks to be the same one in QuebecJeep's ad, only because there appears to be a small siren mounted on the fender next to the alternator, both in the ad and the videos.   I must be dreaming.  :-)

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Re: Jeep diesel upgrade?
« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2013, 10:49:23 AM »
Just an opinionated old fart, but I just don't see any real "upgrade" with that.  Marginally better torque and no doubt much better mileage, but less drivable for most uses.

I have had 4 Benz diesels over the years, starting with a 190Db, then a 240D, followed by a 300SD (617 turbo), and the last a 300CD (also 617 turbo).  Each and every one was a royal pain in the posterior when temps got below zero F.  The non-turbo 190 and 240 D were totally gutless and I well remember being in 2nd gear on I70 in CO trying to keep 20 mph while everyone is zooming by at 75 mph and watching my butt hoping not to have to hit the ditch to keep from getting a plastic/metal enema.  The 617 turbos were WAY better, but with a highly significant turbo lag that caused a big drivability issue.  However, once spooled up, those engines have enough torque to do just about anything, including going over both I70 and I90 passes at 75 mph.

For less money-probably a lot less money, there could be a small block Chevy under there, custom built to suit your driving style and needs, something that has two to three times the torque and gets 50% better mileage than the L head.  If you are going to hack it anyway, I just can't see that the tractor motor has any real merit.
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Re: Jeep diesel upgrade?
« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2013, 02:14:50 PM »
That specific Kubota might not be the right motor for a project, it is convienent that all of the attachments are available.  I was looking at a Yanmar conversion at one time when I was having all kinds of motor trouble.  There are several 3 cylinder diesels available that are popular with agriculture, marine and stationary applications.  I think the 3 cylinder would be a nice fit, especially one of the larger ones, horsepower and torque,  But as the same with the sbc you would have to fabricate all of your own attachment points and linkages.  Never easy.
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Re: Jeep diesel upgrade?
« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2013, 11:11:16 PM »
I dig it. Course I'm biased since I'm putting a diesel in my MB. There is a guy in the willys section on pirate4x4 building a flatty with this motor.

Definitely something I'd consider doing. It would be nice to be able to burn used motor oil as fuel. :D
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Re: Jeep diesel upgrade?
« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2013, 07:07:11 PM »
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I dig it. Course I'm biased since I'm putting a diesel in my MB. There is a guy in the willys section on pirate4x4 building a flatty with this motor.

Definitely something I'd consider doing. It would be nice to be able to burn used motor oil as fuel. :D


Wouldn't work, sorry.  :'(

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Re: Jeep diesel upgrade?
« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2013, 08:10:45 PM »
Why do you say that? A mechanically injected engine will burn oil. Even the TDI motors can have "runaway" from a blown turbo seal sending oil into the cylinders and the motor will keep running even when the fuel is shutoff.
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Re: Jeep diesel upgrade?
« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2013, 08:42:07 PM »
An Isuzu 4BD-1T or 2T would be a better swap. More HP and more tranny options since it can be adapted to an SBC bell or a SBF bell. And it will fit in a low hood flatty. It will be close, but will work. I thought about doing this to the Jalopy before I rebuilt another 225 V6 for it.
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