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Offline Carls_jeep

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New carb throttle shaft
« on: December 05, 2010, 10:58:10 PM »
Just finished my new throttle shaft and here it is. First I reamed the body out to .328".



Then I turned a shaft to .327" and then polished it to fit and rotate in the body.



Then I set up and machined the flat for the throttle plate and one flat for the lever the operates the throttle.



Then I set up to machine the other flat for the lever.



Then I machined the flat that operates the acceleration pump and metering rod.



Then I drilled and tapped the holes for the throttle plate screws.



Here is both throttle shafts shown together.



It was a little more involved than described above but this is about how it was done. Now I am ready to assemble the lower body and build the carb.

« Last Edit: December 05, 2010, 11:00:12 PM by Carlsjeep »

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Re: New carb throttle shaft
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2010, 12:14:13 AM »
Hey Carl,

With the machine tools and skills you possess it looks like there is no job to big for you to complete.  Thanks for the interesting photos.  It's fun to follow your progress.
Calvin
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Re: New carb throttle shaft
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2010, 02:15:56 AM »
Heck just give him a set of plans and a pile of scrap metal and he can fabricate his own jeep!!!!!! ;)

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Re: New carb throttle shaft
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2010, 06:33:56 AM »
Very cool, thanks for sharing!
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Re: New carb throttle shaft
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2010, 08:30:38 AM »
When I was checking around for a new throttle shaft I thought, if they are really rebuilding the carb they almost have to replace the shafts and bush the body. For that reason I feel certain someone is making new shafts but I couldn't find a source. I suspect they are protecting their source so we have to buy a complete carb from them.

If your throttle shaft is worn and loose in the bore it causes all kinds of issues so they are not going to sell a carb with a loose shaft. Even putting a new shaft in a worn bore has issues.

The fit on the new shaft is a very light feel as I turn it. Now I have to put the lever on the shaft, brad the end over and put the carb base together and start putting the rest of it together.

I have been thinking about how to brad it over with out damaging the shaft and I think I will make a rod with a hole to slip the shaft into to keep it straight as I brad the end to retain the lever.

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Re: New carb throttle shaft
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2010, 10:13:22 AM »
Your amazing.  Keep us posted. Jim
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Re: New carb throttle shaft
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2010, 10:56:03 PM »
Wow !!

And when I just rebuilt my carb, I sat back and smiled at myself at a job well done....

But you are REBUILDING a carb in every sense of the word !

Excellent work !
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Re: New carb throttle shaft
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2010, 11:37:25 AM »
Well done!

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Re: New carb throttle shaft
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2010, 07:11:21 PM »
Nice job Carl.  William Carter would hire you in a minute.

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Re: New carb throttle shaft
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2010, 08:40:20 PM »
As I was assembling the carb and got to the choke assy I saw the choke shaft was badly worn so I made a new one. It was a heck of a lot easier to make than the throttle shaft was.



Then I finished assembling everything and tried to make the choke work better than it does. Both the carb on the Jeep and the one I built have the same issue, the choke will not open the throttle as the choke plate closes. The design of the choke on the WO carb is very poor. I spent about an hour or two trying several tricks to make the choke pull the throttle open as the choke closes and there is no way to do it.

Before I put the rebuilt carb on I will study how I can redesign the linkage to make it work like it should. It's not like I have to put it on the Jeep right away so I will spend a few days thinking about it. Then again, maybe not. �::)

Anyway, here is the rebuilt carb.



Setting the metering rod was not as hard as I had thought, but then, with as much trouble as others have had it remains to be seen if my adjustment works. What I did was to back off the throttle plate idle screw so the plates were completely closed. I had already set the accelerator pump. Then assembled the metering rod and top cover and put the cover on. Then I loosened the nut on the pin and moved the pin down until it was just touching the metering rod with no slop and tightened the nut. I checked to see if it still had less than the .005" movement, which means you can still move the metering rod but it's not forced down in the jet. Then I put the spring in the hole, put the choke horn assy on and assembled the linkages.

The military manual was very straight forward about the final setting after using the presetting tool which I don't have. I saw no need for the tool since the manual tells you how the needle is supposed to be after using the tool. We'll see how that goes.

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Re: New carb throttle shaft
« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2010, 08:21:25 AM »
Here's my spare carb finished and ready to install if I don't modify the choke system.