Fwiw, when I was 17, I was trying to do a three point turn around in dads 2a, when the left rear tire found a ditch I didn't see because of the grass and because I was 17, she did a lazy roll on the driver side and the roll bar was the only thing that stopped it from rolling on top of me. Don't get wrong ,I'm not saying that you need one, or they are a complete cure all. Hell, if i wasnt willing to take a risk, I wouldn't be driving my Jeep. the but they do work. I agree the Jeeps look better without one for sure, I put one on mine.