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"Original"-- Technical Questions, Answers, Observations / Re: Floor and wheelhouse ribs.....

« on: February 12, 2013, 10:13:12 AM »

Here's a very late 1950 CJ-3A tub. �#59,359. �(I don't know where the tub serial number is.)

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"Original"-- Technical Questions, Answers, Observations / Re: Bent frame rails on 1950 3a

« on: February 08, 2013, 07:49:04 PM »

Wow!  Thanks you guys.

I'm not quite sure what I'm going to do with the frame I have yet.  I'm hoping that the frame I have is salvageable (within a reasonable $$ amount).  

As soon as I find out what the body guys say, I'll have a much better idea of where I'm headed with this.
and nice to know that the frames are a bit interchangeable, good to know.

Thanks again,
Josh

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"Original"-- Technical Questions, Answers, Observations / Re: Bent frame rails on 1950 3a

« on: February 07, 2013, 11:07:11 PM »

Ohhh, I see it now.  Gas/shipping would be a deal breaker for me.  It's also a year old, but it could still be available.

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"Original"-- Technical Questions, Answers, Observations / Re: Bent frame rails on 1950 3a

« on: February 07, 2013, 10:34:59 PM »

Here are some more pictures from today when I rolled it out to clean the garage. �It turns out that a neighbor might have a connection to a "frame guy". �He's a car painter for the local Buick dealership, so I'm hopeful there might be some kind of discount if he's referring to his own shop, but he wasn't specific. �I'll post when I decide what I'm going to do. �

I'm really hopeful that a new frame isn't going to be necessary, but it looks pretty bad in these shots.









Oh, I searched for the free frame, but didn't see it either. �Thanks for letting me know, though. � I'll keep looking in craigslist too.

I guess I'll start looking into the stuck valve issue on the engine in the meantime.......!  hahaha

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"Original"-- Technical Questions, Answers, Observations / Re: Bent frame rails on 1950 3a

« on: February 07, 2013, 05:56:45 PM »

Ah heck!  (popular slang, here in Utah)

Okay, I'll have to set something up for him to come look at it here.  He's a neighbor, so I'm hoping he'll drop by to give me an estimate if he can.    I was surprised how cheap it sounded too.

I was just kidding about the new frame too.  There is a 48 willy's 2a for sale in craigslist here for sale in pieces for $1,200 right now......  I'd better not go look at it......oh, and you said the 3a's was better anyway.

That picture (I think the one you're referring to) is of me.  Nice to meet you.  haha  I am a little kid, though I have none.

I'll post back up what happens next, as soon as I find out what he says.

Thanks again for the rapid replies.
Josh.

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"Original"-- Technical Questions, Answers, Observations / Re: Bent frame rails on 1950 3a

« on: February 07, 2013, 05:33:49 PM »

It definitely appears that both frame rails got tweaked somehow, and I imagine at the same time. �It also makes sense why the Jeep was painted, and why the fenders are in really good shape.

I called an auto body shop that's right down the road from me, and asked him what his rates were, and he said it would be $100 to hook it up to the rig, or whatever it is they use, and another $40 per hour until it's good. �I asked him what an extreme case would be, and he said 10 hours would be pretty bad, maybe 5 would be average, whatever that means.

I'm guessing it looked like a crab when it rolled, but I never really was paying attention, and I only towed it home less than a mile from where I bought it from.

I couldn't agree more! �A new frame sounds great!........................ �no budget for that, for sure, hahaha. �I do have an Oxy setup that I've never used before, and a big hammer....................

I'm losing motivation by the second to keep scraping crud......................... �:(

All things considered, I can't complain.

Does the frame repair shop sound reasonable? �Assuming it's $500 or less.

and thanks for the quick reply!

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"Original"-- Technical Questions, Answers, Observations / Bent frame rails on 1950 3a

« on: February 07, 2013, 04:43:22 PM »

Hello,

I was just curious as to what anyone thought about the frame on this jeep.

The driver's side motor mount, and the boxed area behind it, are pretty bent up. �The motor mounts didn't bind at all when I removed the engine.

There are big hammer? dents on the outside of the frame which look like someone tried to hammer it back "close enough"......

So, what's the MINIMUM a guy would want to do to make it safe. �I'm fine with the way it looks, and like I say, the motor mounts didn't seem to be an issue. �This Jeep will never see the freeway, and I don't ever expect to have it in 4wd other than some back roads around here that my 2wd 4Runner has no problem with. �I'm not expecting a great, or even good driving vehicle. �It is what it is, and I just want it for groceries, and Sunday drives. �It's that "safety" part about it I'm most worried about!!!!



Thanks for any info!
Josh

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"Original"-- Technical Questions, Answers, Observations / Re: Which to use?

« on: February 18, 2013, 08:11:04 AM »

Well, I'm jealous of both of those Jeeps!!!!!! �Yours is a bit more manly, but to each his own...............

Speaking of,

It's a done deal. �I'm totally going to return the black, and buy this. �http://www.amazon.com/VHT-SP756-Engine-Enamel-Pink/dp/B000CPAVJ8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1361191622&sr=8-1&keywords=pink+engine+paint

Thanks for the idea, it seemed so original (until I googled pink engine). �Aren't all of "our" engines pink? �hahahahahahahahahahaha

Oh, and there is no way the carbs could be mixed and matched with the manifolds. �They are different sizes completely.  I'll start paying more attention.............
Here is the WO

Here is the YF

Here is the WO

Here is the YF


So, I think I'm going to go with the YF.  It's newer, and seeing as how it's on the much better of the two manifolds, and it's what was originally on the engine, it's the winner.  The bracket for the linkage doesn't interchange between the two, but figuring something out for that part of it shouldn't be too hard.

As for rebuilding it, I'm going to do it myself, or at least try.  There are some good videos on youtube, and some good instructions online.

Thanks again for the help (especially the pictures).

Oh, and anything interesting about the head, or engine I would love to know about!!!!!

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"Original"-- Technical Questions, Answers, Observations / Re: Which to use?

« on: February 17, 2013, 11:36:20 AM »

maybe I should do the opposite paint scheme as Athawk11? �(pink engine (in recognition of the dj), and orange body?) � �Where to find high temperature pink?  

Seems like it would be so hard to keep clean?

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"Original"-- Technical Questions, Answers, Observations / Re: Which to use?

« on: February 17, 2013, 11:22:25 AM »

Okay, here are some serial numbers for you while I look at the other stuff.
I just can't thank you enough for helping me with this.
I'll have to see if walmart carries pink spray paint.............................hahahahahahaha  otherwise I'm thinking their orange will do just fine.

The head. �It looks like something was filed off?



The block.

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"Original"-- Technical Questions, Answers, Observations / Which to use?

« on: February 17, 2013, 06:58:16 AM »

The cleaner newer looking Carter YF is probably what I'm going to reuse/rebuild. �It came bolted on the replacement engine I have, and so I assume it was dropped in as a unit. �The original Carter WO was still hooked up to the throttle linkage and was laying on top of the head of the new motor. �

This is the way I got the two carbs.


The WO is on the left, and the YF is on the right (it's much cleaner)






also, since I plan on using the YF, I assume I should keep the manifold that it came bolted on. �I think I have the original manifolds, but there's no sense in using them???

These are the manifolds that came bolted to the replacement motor, that also had the YF carb on them.


and these came with a bunch of extra parts I got with the Jeep (I assume these are the original manifolds that came off the 1950 engine.)


Is there any reason not to use all of the newer stuff other than it's not stock?
Could either unit be used in a mix and match fashion? �Either combination of carb with either combination of manifolds?
Is one significantly easier to work on/rebuild?



Thanks,
Josh. �

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Engine compartment / Re: Unsticking a frozen engine...

« on: February 09, 2013, 08:21:10 PM »

It's the gopro hero hd, I think. �I bought it at Costco two years ago for $189, which was a really good deal at the time. �I love it, and now that I can record disassembly of parts, I love it even more.

I'll definitely look into pressurizing the oil for the prelube. �I'll also get her turned upside down to oil all of those stems. �
Yeah, that sucker was stuck for sure, haha! �I really wasn't letting more than the weight of the hammer hit it, at the most. � �I had no idea how easily bent they were....................I'm hoping for the best.

The cylinders look like they're in really good shape, and the pistons just had a bit of carbon build up. �I'm not sure what the engine is from, but it's not the original, because that's sitting in a pile on the side of the house. �The number on this one is 3J172924. �The number on the original is 3J58414.

and this is the number cast into the left lower side    SD 908758 15

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Engine compartment / Re: Unsticking a frozen engine...

« on: February 09, 2013, 07:33:51 PM »

As for lubing the engine so far, I did spin the engine around a couple of times while it was on the stand hoping that the oil that's in it (same 25 year old oil) would lube it a bit while it was upside down. �Nothing other than that. �It definitely isn't a fresh rebuild, so there's no chance of any assembly lube.

After you asked if it was stuck up I checked, and sure enough it was stuck open just a little off the seat. �I ended up pulling the manifold, and lubed up the stem as best I could from the port hole for the manifold. �Then I said, ah heck, and pulled the head. �Then I made this video. �http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULenxwhBnqE

In hindsight I should have been lubing the stem each time I got it to move, but next time......................

Here's the end result. �http://youtu.be/S7rxZ_k-fFc �I wasn't quite sure how to see if they were sealed, so I came up with this idea. �Not sure what it means? �haha �I'm going to assume that when it runs, they'll seat in a little better, and be completely sealed.

I was definitely going to pre-lube before I started it. �I'll have to research the above two methods, and/or I also have a 2nd distributor that's pretty beat up. �Can this engine be lubed from spinning the distributor with a drill technique?

Thanks again for the tips.

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Engine compartment / Re: Unsticking a frozen engine...

« on: February 09, 2013, 08:59:38 AM »

It's been getting a bit of Marvel's Mystery Oil, and the acetone/atf treatment for a week.

I can see when looking through the spark plug holes that the second to the last valve (I'm not sure if it's exhaust or intake) on the number 4 cylinder is the only one not moving at all.

How much pressure is too much to apply? �I'm in no rush, and I'd rather not pull the head. �Supposedly, this was a good used engine that the previous owner had installed, but never fired up. �it was installed 25 years ago, and sat ever since.

Here is a video of it. �http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioanIqk9BKU



Found another use for the "go pro" camera. �Videotaping, and talking as I take the complicated pieces apart. �It's convenient to have it mounted to your head, to free your hands up.


I'll post what happens, and how long it took.

Josh.

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Rambling, Malarky, Rants, Etc... / Re: Post your favorite non jeep videos here!

« on: March 08, 2013, 06:27:50 AM »

It's not a Jeep.............but it's certainly in the spirit of it. �My absolute favorite thing to drive, besides Jeeps.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBhbza8t_A4 � � Fun, fun, fun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and I lOVE the rusty Chevy video, I'll have to forward it to a buddy who I used to commute to work with in his falling apart, constantly breaking, El Camino! �Good times.