My Willys 3A and 3B Community
TECH FAQ SECTIONS => Engine compartment => Topic started by: Patrick on February 10, 2022, 01:24:14 AM
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The previous owner had other plans so I'm left with no engine mount brackets on the frame, willys part #s 647919 and 647025. I can find the engine mounts but not the frame brackets. Anyone have a lead on where I can find these? 1954 3B
TIA
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Your best bet is to have some one cut a pair off of a junk frame. I had to do that when I modified my CJ5 frame to fit my CJ-2A just ask them to cut the frame and let you grind out the rivets. Then use Button head bolts to bolt them on in place of your originals after bolting them on you can weld them as original. Then use a little Epoxy putty to fill the Hex hole in the button head to make it look like a rivet.
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I see listings like on ebay from time to time.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/154203309354?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-213727-13078-0&mkcid=2&itemid=154203309354&targetid=4581183927179149&device=c&mktype=&googleloc=&poi=&campaignid=418233787&mkgroupid=1241348861725295&rlsatarget=pla-4581183927179149&abcId=9300542&merchantid=51291&msclkid=6e544adf63141879fa6028da51b2ccb7
https://www.ebay.com/itm/383504376844?chn=ps&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&amdata=enc%3A1e9Wp2uu4S12JvJ1T_javPg88&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-213727-13078-0&mkcid=2&itemid=383504376844&targetid=4581046489808873&device=c&mktype=&googleloc=&poi=&campaignid=418640322&mkgroupid=1239149842233245&rlsatarget=pla-4581046489808873&abcId=9300602&merchantid=51291&msclkid=955b8772a76517fc28d2e57795c3e781
https://www.ebay.com/itm/363665887428?chn=ps&_trkparms=ispr%3D1&amdata=enc%3A167RJ1ATJQGK5TIsj2-MydQ70&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-213727-13078-0&mkcid=2&itemid=363665887428&targetid=4581046489808873&device=c&mktype=&googleloc=&poi=&campaignid=418640322&mkgroupid=1239149842233245&rlsatarget=pla-4581046489808873&abcId=9300602&merchantid=51291&msclkid=71873321029c1415f739512437f4b317
I don't know about accuracy or dimensions or cross-fit compatibility. I like Mark's idea and see if you can get take-offs. I suggest calling Harry Sheets to see if he stocks these.
http://www.midwestwillys.com/
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Thanks! I'm just jumping into this rebuild, kind of a basket case. Those on ebay, are they the correct ones? I don't have any or pics to compare them too. Is there a bracket needed for the Brake master Cylinder? Lastly, I have a Saginaw steering set up and the original steering wheel but no steering column. Should I source that used or buy an aftermarket GM universal steering column?
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Patrick,
I don't have much depth in knowing compatibility cross-over. Those I listed indicate application. For the price, I'd want to know myself. My suggestion to call Harry Sheets will help. He's got some background and I've been to his place. He's got some inventory. He may even have a bad frame where he's cannibalized or can remove to send you. Sometimes members may have spare frames they're trying to get out of their back yards...
The m/c bolts right up to the frame. There is a plate on the outside that ties the m/c to the brake pedal shaft.
Illustration:
https://walcks4wd.com/master-cylinder-tie-bar-mb-gpw-cj2a-1941-1948_p_2179.html
Here's some images from Luise' M606 that show the plate:
https://cj3apage.com/Forum/index.php?topic=4362.msg35809#msg35809
I'm sure Harry Sheets has those too.
As far as the Saginaw conversion, all I can suggest is review this on the 3B Page - it seems to adress column options:
https://cj3b.info/Tech/SaginawSteering.html
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I called 3 places and Harry came through for me. I'll make them my first call from now on. Thanks!