My Willys 3A and 3B Community
TECH FAQ SECTIONS => Engine compartment => Topic started by: Marla.the.V35 on September 29, 2021, 07:44:03 PM
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Title pretty much says it. Do I need to change oil filter every oil change or every other ?
Thanks!
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JON,
That initially sounded like a simple question.
I have a SM for early jeeps, SM-1002-R6 and later jeeps, SM-1046. I thought it would be interesting to see if the guidance matched.
The early manual (covers 2A-3B) shows, in the LUBRICATION CHART, oil change at 2,000 mi.
I had to turn some pages and buried in the text was para. B-22. Oil Filter. There it states change the filter at each 6,000 miles of normal driving. I believe all these early engines had canister filters.
The later manual (covers 3B - 5/6) shows the same change at 2000 miles for the F-head (6,000 for V6).
BUT, I noticed a difference where the filter was discussed. In this manual, para. B-10.Engine Oil Filter Service- Hurricane F4 Engine, it it states change each 2,000 mi. I also noted how this paragraph described removal and installation of a spin-on filter.
I had in the past always changed my canister filter every time I changed oil (back then I may have actually changed it every 3,000 mi.). I'm re-thinking this whole filter interval.
I don't know why there's an apparent difference between when to change a canister filter and what sounds to me like a spin-on filter.
It'll be interesting to see what others do for their oil changes.
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My dad used to say "Changing oil without changing the filter, is like washing your feet and putting on dirty socks." He also said..."If you're going to "skimp", change the filter and not the oil every other change interval." Interval should vary with "use and environmental conditions", the hotter and dirtier, the sooner to change. Highway miles do not have the same impact as short start and stops, and idling, especially in sandy conditions, so mileage is not the best determinate, just the easiest to monitor. I may stretch the interval, but do both together, either cartridge or canister. It is a "system"... IMO, and oil is the critical component to prevent wear. Today's oils are "higher tech" too than when the manuals were written, just like there is no "mention of Ethanol" in a SM. One thing that should never be "neglected", is "common sense". Happy motoring.
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I’m with you on that Steve.
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Great info. Thanks, all. I also learned to always do both, but came across some of the same info that Rus did. Thought it was odd, and since I consider myself a novice when it comes to flatfenders, figured I'd ask. I dunno that I would try to stretch my intervals though, with the age of this engine, it's probably best to give it all I can ;D
I'm always going to be running engine oil with high zinc (Shell Rotella 30W seems to be the most accessible for me at the moment), and I learned the hard way that my canister takes the NAPA Gold 1100, not the 1010. D'oh!
Thanks again!