My Willys 3A and 3B Community
3A, 3B, DJ Technical Knowledge Base => "Original"-- Technical Questions, Answers, Observations => Topic started by: tow hook on September 15, 2021, 10:33:45 AM
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in the early 60's could my cj had either motor wheels, or kelsey hayes rims ? i have 2 of each at this time. i'm trying to make a set of 5
thanks
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I would initially think that if they appear to be the same on the outside, would anyone know the difference?
Do they look different?
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I would initially think that if they appear to be the same on the outside, would anyone know the difference?
Do they look different?
they do look a tad different, most normal people would never know
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I'll bet there's some published info somewhere in someone's jeep library that could shed light on this. Can you post images of each type?
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Here's a discussion with pics of the two brands compared at 16", with the statement of "15" looks identical to the 16's. It shows the main difference is around the lugs...
https://homersgarage.wordpress.com/2018/10/11/16-willys-wheels/
Here's another interesting discussion where it is suggested some Willys cam with mixed brands of rims...
https://www.thecj2apage.com/forums/motor-wheel-before-kelsey-hayes_topic18053.html
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The 1962 CJ “service standard” wheel was the Kelly Hayes 4-1/2” x 16”.
And 1962 was the last year for that particular size of wheel.
Two other optional wheel sizes were also available for your model and vintage.
I would not expect that any “Motor” brand wheels were used on jeeps since the 1940’s.
In general the wheel consists of 2 parts; specifically the rim and the disk.
Both rim and disk gauges varied for specific applications.
However on your particular wheel both the rim and the disk were made of 8 gauge.
Also all disks were of the creased design ever since the mid 1950’s.
The 4-1/2” wheel measures 5-1/2” wide across the outermost flanges of the rim.
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Here's a discussion with pics of the two brands compared at 16", with the statement of "15" looks identical to the 16's. It shows the main difference is around the lugs...
https://homersgarage.wordpress.com/2018/10/11/16-willys-wheels/
Here's another interesting discussion where it is suggested some Willys cam with mixed brands of rims...
https://www.thecj2apage.com/forums/motor-wheel-before-kelsey-hayes_topic18053.html
thanks for the info, i was aware of some the difference between the rims. an that some came mixed, just wasn't sure what was right?
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The 1962 CJ “service standard” wheel was the Kelly Hayes 4-1/2” x 16”.
And 1962 was the last year for that particular size of wheel.
Two other optional wheel sizes were also available for your model and vintage.
I would not expect that any “Motor” brand wheels were used on jeeps since the 1940’s.
In general the wheel consists of 2 parts; specifically the rim and the disk.
Both rim and disk gauges varied for specific applications.
However on your particular wheel both the rim and the disk were made of 8 gauge.
Also all disks were of the creased design ever since the mid 1950’s.
The 4-1/2” wheel measures 5-1/2” wide across the outermost flanges of the rim.
thanks you so much. i'm goin to paint these motor wheels up for now. the k/h wheels are up in price and i'll grab a set later
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here is my rims so far https://www.mywillyspics.com/album/j9mV
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was the paint on the 3b rims flat or matte finish ? the wife an i finally found a color we both like and it's gloss ...... thanks
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we went with gloss, its call almond. i'll add pics when i'm done, i got 2 more fronts to paint then all 5 are done. and ready for tires