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Title: CJ3A / M38 Windscreen
Post by: Tony on August 22, 2021, 11:54:28 PM

Attached is a windscreen we purchased from a locally in New Zealand as our CJ3A has a badly home-fabricate windscreen frame. I am not sure what it is from, maybe a M38? but the windscreen wipers are manual and on the top. Any ideas out there? Sorry for the bad photo, it is sitting in the back of my parts shed.

Title: Re: CJ3A / M38 Windscreen
Post by: Rus Curtis on August 23, 2021, 11:16:53 AM

Tony,
I've not seen an M38 w/s with wipers in that location.  I'm guessing its an M38 because of the bolts above and below the vent.  Perhaps others may have more insight on why you'd have manual wipers like that - could be how aftermarket w/s frames come.  Kind of unique.  If you choose to go powered on your wipers, that might be a good place to mount them.

Title: Re: CJ3A / M38 Windscreen
Post by: Chuck W. on August 23, 2021, 02:24:55 PM

That IS very unusual! I agree that the frame is M38, appears to even have the rifle rack brackets, but there is no indication that the wipers were ever mounted in the normal location. I think you should post a photo on the M38 forum on the G503 board and see if somebody can identify it. Possibly something off of a foreign-contract M38?? Would be interesting to know.

Title: Re: CJ3A / M38 Windscreen
Post by: Rus Curtis on August 23, 2021, 03:33:15 PM

Quote from: Chuck W. on August 23, 2021, 02:24:55 PM

....appears to even have the rifle rack brackets....

I saw those but didn't know what they could have been.  Good idea to post on g503!

Title: Re: CJ3A / M38 Windscreen
Post by: SteveKfl on August 23, 2021, 05:37:36 PM

Maybe this helps explain it...  https://forums.g503.com/viewtopic.php?t=123162

Title: Re: CJ3A / M38 Windscreen
Post by: Tony on August 23, 2021, 05:59:33 PM

Thanks for the replies. I have posted on a local face book group that specialises in military vehicles in New Zealand encase it was a special order  (.e.g. with an artic top) as per: http://davidsclassiccars.com/willys/270723-willys-m38-jeep-rare-arctic-package-korean-war-body-off-frame-restoration.html.

Title: Re: CJ3A / M38 Windscreen
Post by: Chuck W. on August 24, 2021, 04:09:26 PM

All the M38's with the artic top kits that I have seen use a windshield frame with no pivot points. The windshield frame mounts vertical and bolts to the side of the body. I can't tell from your photo, but does your windshield frame have pivot arms?
(http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data/500/36829e515c820fb37eb1399ed5e17a61.jpg)

(http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data/500/cab-enclosure-hardtop-anacortes2_1_.jpg)

Title: Re: CJ3A / M38 Windscreen
Post by: Tony on August 24, 2021, 07:31:52 PM

Maybe a Korean Model M38 with an artic heater, centre panel has been replaced.

https://www.mecum.com/lots/DN0719-377535/1950-willys-m38-military-jeep/

Title: Re: CJ3A / M38 Windscreen
Post by: Mark W. on August 25, 2021, 08:46:04 AM

My vote is reproduction. The two piece exterior sheet metal leads me to think that.

Title: Re: CJ3A / M38 Windscreen
Post by: Chuck W. on August 25, 2021, 11:59:16 PM

Good eye! I didn't catch that! My M38 windshield sheet-metal is a single piece, I think you are exactly right.
(http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data/500/DSCN95771.JPG)