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TECH FAQ SECTIONS => Electrical Systems => Topic started by: Chris P on April 10, 2020, 12:42:28 PM

Title: Hall lamp tailights CJ3B
Post by: Chris P on April 10, 2020, 12:42:28 PM: Hi everyone,
I finally was lucky enough to found these pair of Hall Lamp taillights in pretty good condition. Lenses seem to be aftermarket replacements: Stratolite SAE.S.AI.T O36A. Will need to find the correct Stimsonite lenses.

Reading through Jeep Taillights on CJ3B https://www.cj3b.info/Dating/Taillights.html (https://www.cj3b.info/Dating/Taillights.html) I understand Hall taillights became available to the 3B since 1957. Since my 3B is 1956 I should get ALA ones instead. Nevertheless later in the page it is stated that Hall Lamps were available in CJ5 since 1955. In my 1956 Part List Hall taillights are listed as a valid option but there is no reference since which serial number.

Any thoughts guys? Below are some pics of the ones IÂ´ve got.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49757388856_a84a6803c6_c.jpg)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49757388836_dc9ce60d63_c.jpg)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49757388831_c733d6fa4b_c.jpg)

Regards,
Chris
Title: Re: Hall lamp tailights CJ3B
Post by: oldtime on April 10, 2020, 01:42:50 PM: After some parts list sequencing and extrapolation I come up my best guess without further evidence.
AL was likely used prior to serial plate number 57348-33148.
Title: Re: Hall lamp tailights CJ3B
Post by: Rus Curtis on April 10, 2020, 04:54:38 PM: Chris,
You could also approach it from the perspective of "period replacement" meaning that if those lights were available they could've been swapped in to replace broken lights.

Those really look nice.
Title: Re: Hall lamp tailights CJ3B
Post by: oldtime on April 10, 2020, 07:09:24 PM: So Chris what’s your serial plate number ?
Title: Re: Hall lamp tailights CJ3B
Post by: Chris P on April 10, 2020, 09:09:27 PM: Thanks guys.
I am very interested in your opinion Oldtime. Message shows blank.

Rus, I agree with your comment. It is definitely period correct and much better than all the new replacements available.
Title: Re: Hall lamp tailights CJ3B
Post by: Rus Curtis on April 10, 2020, 10:02:02 PM: Quote from: oldtime on April 10, 2020, 07:09:24 PM

Yeah, blank for me too.
Title: Re: Hall lamp tailights CJ3B
Post by: oldtime on April 11, 2020, 12:00:16 AM: Hmm. Not blank on my end.
Can anybody else read this besides me ?
I repeat........
After some parts list sequencing and extrapolation I come up my best guess without further evidence.
AL was likely used prior to serial plate number 57348-33148.
So Chris what is your serial plate number ?
Title: Re: Hall lamp tailights CJ3B
Post by: Rus Curtis on April 11, 2020, 12:36:24 AM: Ken,
That's visible. This is weird.
Title: Re: Hall lamp tailights CJ3B
Post by: Bob W on April 11, 2020, 07:19:30 AM: I can see all the messages.
Title: Re: Hall lamp tailights CJ3B
Post by: Chris P on April 11, 2020, 01:10:24 PM: Very weird. Enclosed is a screenshot.
Title: Re: Hall lamp tailights CJ3B
Post by: oldtime on April 11, 2020, 01:58:06 PM: I can’t see what I’d on his screen shot.
Maybe someone can copy and post my reply to Chris. TIA
Title: Re: Hall lamp tailights CJ3B
Post by: Chris P on April 18, 2020, 03:30:19 PM: Hi oldtime, I'm afraid your messages show blank to me :-\
Title: Re: Hall lamp tailights CJ3B
Post by: Bob W on April 18, 2020, 04:08:07 PM: Here is what Oldtime posted up a few...

"After some parts list sequencing and extrapolation I come up my best guess without further evidence.
AL was likely used prior to serial plate number 57348-33148.
So Chris what is your serial plate number ?"
Title: Re: Hall lamp tailights CJ3B
Post by: Chris P on April 18, 2020, 04:20:54 PM: 57384 24289. As Rus suggested, Hall taillights would be period correct but not factory correct. I can survive with that until some ALA taillights show up! ;)
Thanks guys
Title: Re: Hall lamp tailights CJ3B
Post by: Chris P on July 18, 2020, 10:17:49 PM: And finally the so expected ALA taillights showed up, just when I was ready to install aftermarket repros. And they are actually two pairs so will have the chance to use the best ones.

(https://farm66.staticflickr.com/65535/50125944071_09d0d5b086_z.jpg)

(https://farm66.staticflickr.com/65535/50125944066_c7f2c8e63d_z.jpg)

(https://farm66.staticflickr.com/65535/50125944061_876c03baa0_z.jpg)

There are also some spare glasses and rings, including black one that I guess they are early version or Naco.

Cheers
Title: Re: Hall lamp tailights CJ3B
Post by: Rus Curtis on July 19, 2020, 12:39:40 AM: Nice score! Those will dress up nicely!
Title: Re: Hall lamp tailights CJ3B
Post by: Dinesh on July 21, 2020, 08:43:11 AM: Those are nice ALA lamps. Good to be used on a cj3a. I have been looking for a set for a long time. Do let me know if you have a set to spare.
Title: Re: Hall lamp tailights CJ3B
Post by: Cesar on July 26, 2020, 06:57:18 PM: Will you sell the spare pair of ALA lights you got?

Regards.
Title: Re: Hall lamp tailights CJ3B
Post by: Chris P on August 01, 2020, 10:59:33 PM: Hi guys. No plan to sell the spare pair yet.
Title: Re: Hall lamp tailights CJ3B
Post by: Dinesh on August 04, 2022, 02:59:27 AM: Quote from: Chris P on April 10, 2020, 12:42:28 PM
Hi everyone,
I finally was lucky enough to found these pair of Hall Lamp taillights in pretty good condition. Lenses seem to be aftermarket replacements: Stratolite SAE.S.AI.T O36A. Will need to find the correct Stimsonite lenses.

Reading through Jeep Taillights on CJ3B https://www.cj3b.info/Dating/Taillights.html (https://www.cj3b.info/Dating/Taillights.html) I understand Hall taillights became available to the 3B since 1957. Since my 3B is 1956 I should get ALA ones instead. Nevertheless later in the page it is stated that Hall Lamps were available in CJ5 since 1955. In my 1956 Part List Hall taillights are listed as a valid option but there is no reference since which serial number.

Any thoughts guys? Below are some pics of the ones IÂ´ve got.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49757388856_a84a6803c6_c.jpg)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49757388836_dc9ce60d63_c.jpg)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49757388831_c733d6fa4b_c.jpg)

Regards,
Chris
Hi Chris,
Are those passenger side HALLS. Please share some pictures. Thanks