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Title: Seat Belt Anchors?
Post by: 1955CJ-5 on December 13, 2013, 10:55:32 PM: I'm thinking that I will install seat belts. I found a set of aircraft style quick release 1 3/4" belts that were meant to clip into eye bolts. So, That is probably what I'll use, but I thought I'd see what others have done.

I'm not sure where the anchors ought to be in terms of having the belt at an effective angle..
Title: Re: Seat Belt Anchors?
Post by: scoutpilot on December 14, 2013, 05:37:24 AM: [size=8]Obviously I can't see them, but are you sure eyebolts? All I am aware of are latch plates with a four-bolt pattern and either a recessed rod or a welded-on plate with a hole in it for the latch.[/size]
Title: Re: Seat Belt Anchors?
Post by: garage gnome on December 14, 2013, 09:03:28 AM: These are what I used on my '53. I bolted mine through the hat channels next to the seats that come down from the side and on to the rear fender well and then other ends are bolted on by one bolt which goes through the side of the toolbox near the rear floor riser.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/BLACK-SEAT-BELT-SET-NEW-60-CHROME-BUCKLE-BELTS-W-HARDWARE-SECURES-2-PASSENGERS-/291001545503?pt=Vintage_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item43c10b331f
Title: Re: Seat Belt Anchors?
Post by: 1955CJ-5 on December 14, 2013, 11:01:14 AM: I expect that when they were mounted in whatever vehicle they came out of that they clipped to the seat frame.ï¿½ The tag reads:

"BELT: Aircraft, Safety, Lap, Troop, Type MC1A" With plenty of numbers.

I think ring bolts is what I meant to say....

I agree about going through the side brace on the outboard of the seats....
Title: Re: Seat Belt Anchors?
Post by: scoutpilot on December 14, 2013, 12:17:34 PM: Here is what I'm talking about.
Title: Re: Seat Belt Anchors?
Post by: 1955CJ-5 on December 14, 2013, 12:31:01 PM: Well, those brackets would be perfect...

But where do I find them?

I would really like to use something that is more appropriate than a hardware store ring bolt...I was going to try some footmen loops but they are too small, and I have a frame tie-down footman but it is way too large....
Title: Re: Seat Belt Anchors?
Post by: F Bill on December 14, 2013, 12:35:04 PM: http://www.summitracing.com/parts/gfr-109l/overview/

Summit has a lot of seat belt stuff...take a look around.
Title: Re: Seat Belt Anchors?
Post by: 1955CJ-5 on December 14, 2013, 12:47:07 PM: Quote
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/gfr-109l/overview/

Summit has a lot of seat belt stuff...take a look around.

That is what I had in mind.....Thanks Bill...

But I'm still open to options....
Title: Re: Seat Belt Anchors?
Post by: SteveW on December 14, 2013, 04:43:09 PM: I have some 60's era lap belts and put one side on the slope of the wheel housing and the other about 4.5 inches back on the deck with 3/8 bolts through and large washers on the back side and nylock nuts on them.
Title: Re: Seat Belt Anchors?
Post by: Matto on December 14, 2013, 04:51:31 PM: These guys have a pretty good selection, I bought belts for my 3B here.
https://www.seatbeltsplus.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Session_ID=1558663a6356873596463aacf303fecc&
Title: Re: Seat Belt Anchors?
Post by: 1955CJ-5 on December 14, 2013, 08:42:11 PM: Well, thanks for the links...there sure are a lot of options out there...

I ordered four of the anchors from Summit racing that F Bill pointed out...
Title: Re: Seat Belt Anchors?
Post by: stony on December 14, 2013, 09:49:03 PM: CJ-5's aircraft belts sure bring back memories.ï¿½ Put the exact same belts in my '56' CJ-5 back in '70'. Got em at the Elmendorf base surplus store.ï¿½ Gotta see if I can get them back from my nephew.ï¿½ Probably take a whole bottle of *.
Title: Re: Seat Belt Anchors?
Post by: 1955CJ-5 on December 14, 2013, 10:33:33 PM: I'm always learning something on this forum....

Never heard of *.....

It sounds like a good plan, and he may even offer a sip...
Title: Re: Seat Belt Anchors?
Post by: stony on December 14, 2013, 11:11:34 PM: George *, Tennessee sour mash, even though my current fav is Larceny.
Title: Re: Seat Belt Anchors?
Post by: SteveW on December 16, 2013, 05:45:05 PM: Here is my set up. Belts are actually 1983 dated.

(http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data/500/medium/Seat_belts_001.jpg)

(http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data/500/medium/Seat_belts_002.jpg)

(http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data/500/medium/Seat_belts_003.jpg)

(http://www.surfacezero.com/g503/data/500/medium/Seat_belts_004.jpg)
Title: Re: Seat Belt Anchors?
Post by: 1955CJ-5 on December 16, 2013, 09:54:01 PM: Thanks Steve,

I tried the belts today and I think that the angle is better with them mounted just a little higher than the hat channel, as you have yours. And maybe 6" or so back from the riser....I'll work on it some more before drilling though!
Title: Re: Seat Belt Anchors?
Post by: SteveW on December 17, 2013, 07:17:24 AM: When I set them I clipped them and pulled them back until they fit me on the hips good then marked the spot. It may be a difference in size among folks since nothing is adjustable on the jeep. I am 5'9" about 185 with a 33 inch waist. I won't get any taller but the other stuff is subject to change.
Title: Re: Seat Belt Anchors?
Post by: 1955CJ-5 on December 17, 2013, 10:33:09 AM: Fortunately, these belts are plenty long with lots of adjustment ;D
Title: Re: Seat Belt Anchors?
Post by: SteveW on December 17, 2013, 05:32:58 PM: Up to the bottom of the steering wheel at least!
Title: Re: Seat Belt Anchors?
Post by: ZekeD on December 17, 2013, 10:43:26 PM: Would this help??????? ;D
Title: Re: Seat Belt Anchors?
Post by: 1955CJ-5 on December 18, 2013, 02:59:21 PM: Ouch! That one looks painful!

The anchors arrived today...I think they will be perfect...

This is the link..

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/gfr-109l/overview/

Thanks again Bill...!
Title: Re: Seat Belt Anchors?
Post by: 1955CJ-5 on December 31, 2013, 05:10:40 PM: I finally got the nerve to drill some holes.....