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Title: windshield doesn�t rest
Post by: Carlos on June 13, 2013, 09:06:55 PM
 I have a consultation, is the case that my CJ3A of 1950 when bending the windshield doesn't rest� over the wooden supports that are in the hood and don't I understand why, somebody would can to give me some idea?

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I've re-sized all the pics in this thread to 800 wide so they can be seen by everybody. Also made the file size much smaller for those on dial-up. Hope this helps.
Title: Re: windshield doesn�t rest
Post by: garage gnome on June 13, 2013, 09:27:11 PM
Somebody could have put the wooden supports in the wrong spot. How far from the end of the hood are they? Can you post a picture?
Title: Re: windshield doesn�t rest
Post by: 1955CJ-5 on June 13, 2013, 09:35:58 PM
This is how mine looked...how is yours different?

(wow that's a big picture!)
Title: Re: windshield doesn�t rest
Post by: Gunslinger on June 14, 2013, 08:32:14 PM
Where does it rest?   A little more info would help.
Title: Re: windshield doesn�t rest
Post by: Carlos on June 15, 2013, 08:49:52 PM
This are some pictures of my Willys
Title: Re: windshield doesn�t rest
Post by: 1955CJ-5 on June 15, 2013, 11:15:37 PM
Nice jeep!

Could it be that the windshield is bent or raked back too much?

When you lay it down does the part near the hinge hit first before the top f the windshield touches the blocks?

Title: Re: windshield doesn�t rest
Post by: Carlos on June 16, 2013, 12:52:03 AM
It doesn't seem to be bent and when I bend it the first part that it rest over the hood it is the part of the ventilation window, then it cannot bend more, not yet I have a picture that shows it, but I have found this in the forum where it show a willys to which doesn't rest the windshield the same as to mine.
Title: Re: windshield doesn�t rest
Post by: Carlos on June 16, 2013, 09:04:03 PM
Hello, again bothering, this day I takes him some pictures to my CJ3A and I could check measures of the wooden blocks and their location, I go up the pictures so that you can appreciate it, the dimensions of the blocks that I have are 11.2x3.8x4 centimeters of high, both are located at the same distance of the hood center (33 cm) and to 3.5 centimeters of the hood edge, I understand that starting from the CJ3A this is therefore the wipers they already go located in the low part from the windshield contrary to the previous models where were up and for that reason it was necessary to put the blocks at different distances, I also find that the blocks of the CJ3A are more high that those of the other ones, I will thank a lot if somebody can give me a small drawing with the correct dimensions for the CJ3A, it could send this way them to make since I know a good carpenter, I wait their comments, greetings.
Title: Re: windshield doesn�t rest
Post by: Carlos on June 16, 2013, 09:12:49 PM
Here is the pictures:
Title: Re: windshield doesn�t rest
Post by: 1955CJ-5 on June 16, 2013, 09:28:48 PM
The blocks I have are reproductions, they are:

11.8 cm long

5.5 cm high

2.6 cm thick

Does that help?

Can you adjust your hinge points so the windshield lays flat in relation to the hood?

Also, can you make your pictures smaller? They are huge on my screen and hard to view..

Good luck!
Title: Re: windshield doesn�t rest
Post by: Carlos on June 16, 2013, 09:33:06 PM
Thanks, for the datail, and sorry for the pictures sizes, I am not sure how can do.
Title: Re: windshield doesn�t rest
Post by: 1955CJ-5 on June 16, 2013, 09:37:29 PM
I'm not sure about the pictures either.....it might be a camera setting....
Title: Re: windshield doesn�t rest
Post by: Carlos on June 16, 2013, 09:40:46 PM
Ok, maybe, I try to take a new pictures whit low resolution, I hope is better, bue thanks again and excuse me for that.
Title: Re: windshield doesn�t rest
Post by: 1955CJ-5 on June 16, 2013, 09:49:03 PM
Just a suggestion.....

The big pictures sure show every detail!
Title: Re: windshield doesn�t rest
Post by: garage gnome on June 16, 2013, 09:52:06 PM
Here are some pics of mine.

(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx125/willyscjmj/1949%203A/3e614ef0.jpg) (http://s748.photobucket.com/user/willyscjmj/media/1949%203A/3e614ef0.jpg.html)

(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx125/willyscjmj/1949%203A/c23221b9.jpg) (http://s748.photobucket.com/user/willyscjmj/media/1949%203A/c23221b9.jpg.html)
Title: Re: windshield doesn�t rest
Post by: garage gnome on June 16, 2013, 09:55:20 PM
I see the problem now (after your pictures loaded). You have to cut the shafts of the wipers back some like I did on my '53. See how close they are to the frame?

(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx125/willyscjmj/d3e2ae7e-ad35-4207-96ad-31f4c4aa7462.jpg) (http://s748.photobucket.com/user/willyscjmj/media/d3e2ae7e-ad35-4207-96ad-31f4c4aa7462.jpg.html)
Title: Re: windshield doesn�t rest
Post by: athawk11 on June 16, 2013, 10:15:12 PM
I second what Nate spotted. Your hood blocks look to be a bit short, but your real problem is the windshield wiper shaft.  Your motor is not stock, so it needs to be modified.

Shorten the wiper drive shaft, or add spacers between the motor and the windshield.

Tim
Title: Re: windshield doesn�t rest
Post by: Carlos on June 16, 2013, 11:28:09 PM
If they are right, the motor is not the original, it is one new that have just bought in kaiserwillys, I had already thought of cut the cleaner's offspring a little, but it is not a lot what one can make, in a same way, I already proved to remove the motor totally and even so it doesn't seat the windshield in the blocks, for the information that gave me 3A Guru, I should make blocks more big, I would like them to confirm me the measures that  he has given me.
Title: Re: windshield doesn�t rest
Post by: athawk11 on June 17, 2013, 11:18:54 AM
Carlos,
I did a couple things to keep the wiper (cleaner) from hitting the hood.

Your wiper motor looks like an electric motor which is an acceptable replacement, but is not original on a CJ3A.

In this photo, you see the original style vacuum wiper motor.� You also can see that I added spacers.� This shortened the wiper arm on the other side of the windshield�
(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa397/athawk11/wipermotor.jpg) (http://s1195.photobucket.com/user/athawk11/media/wipermotor.jpg.html)

I also made the decision to make my hood blocks taller than the originals.� My blocks are about 2 3/8�� (6 cm) tall.� This gave me a little more space between the wiper (cleaner) and the hood.

I don�t have a close up of my wiper arms, but in these photos you can see that I have almost no wiper arm shaft on the outside of the windshield.

(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa397/athawk11/20120527001.jpg) (http://s1195.photobucket.com/user/athawk11/media/20120527001.jpg.html)

(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa397/athawk11/20120309005.jpg) (http://s1195.photobucket.com/user/athawk11/media/20120309005.jpg.html)

Hopefully this helps a little

Tim
Title: Re: windshield doesn�t rest
Post by: Carlos on June 17, 2013, 11:48:01 AM
Thank you Tim, your pictures really sample the corrections to make, greetings.