My Willys 3A and 3B Community
3A, 3B, DJ Technical Knowledge Base => "Original"-- Technical Questions, Answers, Observations => Topic started by: polara6t on April 28, 2013, 07:10:42 PM
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Happy Sunday All,
Didn't see any topic on covering this area so here it goes. Bringing back my Dad's CJ3A to life after being stored for 10 years. The passenger side parking light lens was broken. Got the replacement lens and gaskets decided to do both.
Three questions on Parking Lights..
Is there a tip on how to get the driver's side lens ring off easily the nuts seem basically unreachable? If they are like the passenger side they will be rusted and frozen.
What is the stock reflector color inside the parking light itself? When the Jeep was repainted in the 70s I am thinking they got carried away and painted them Campus Red but guessing they are suppose to be white.
Broken parking light bulb is stuck. Any tips on how to get out of socket and thoughts on type replacement bulbs?
As always thanks in advance!
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Are you planning on putting turn signals on? Are you re-using the original sockets? 6V or 12V?
1) No real easy way to get at them sort of removing the fender. I put stainless screws and nuts on mine. Solved the rust problem. Sheet metal screws would be be the best option. No pesky nuts to catch!
2) The original light color was white. And there was no reflector.
3) Needle nose pliers work pretty well for me. I bend the light in on itself and twist it out. If you are using the original sockets, Wagner miniature lamps will work. I don't know the number for them though.
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Single filament, replace original
6V #53
12V #97
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Do as garage gnome said BUT be careful that you do not bend the outer caseing of the socket with the bulb base in as it will ruin it. I use the head of a pair of my strippers inside of the socket as it has a sharper edge to grab as you are pushing in and turning it out.
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Here's a link to the tech tips page article on modifiying the parking lights to accept turn signal bulbs if you were considering that.
http://www.cj3apage.com/index/Tech_Tips/installing_front_turn_signals.htm
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Thanks everyone for taking the time to respond. For now I will keep them as parking but very cool idea to convert to turn signals. The stripped screw idea worked like a charm thank you very easy. Now about that pesky right side parking light there must be an easier way than taking off the fender..you'd think Mercedes or Lexus designed it. I'm kinda stumped. I am positive the nuts will be rusted in place. I have hit with a does of deep creep. How do you get at em?
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Polara,
You do need to be a bit of a contortionist. If you remove the battery you will have a better shot at it. I would remove the headlight bucket before I took the fender off. You don't need to 'see' what your doing. You may need to do it by 'feel'.
Another option would be to simply grind the head of the screw off. Of course you want to be careful not to damage the bezel.
Tim
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I am sorry for being unclear..I am talking drivers side the passenger side was all good.
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Okay Polara, I'm confused. �Do you have something mounted on the driver side fender that can be removed for better access? �From my perspective, the passenger side parking light is worse than the driver side.
I know that 3A headlight buckets extend into the engine compartment more than my M38 buckets, but not by much.
I shot a photo. �Looks like a pretty straight shot....
(http://i1195.photobucket.com/albums/aa397/athawk11/20130430002_zps96f68236.jpg)
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Tim, I like the way you did your turn signal modification. Very nicely done. I might end up doing mine the same way.
George
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Hi Bedrock,
I just added an explanation over at the FAQ section.
Thanks for the compliment!
Tim
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Tim,
I wish I had that access here is what I have. Frankly having big hands does not help. Rusted and the nuts seem to be 11/32. There is no room to get a socket I think I can get a small 11/32 wrench in which I don't have. Just trying to get in position the back wire to the light broke off. Think I am getting two new light housings..ha!
(http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/y459/polara6t/PL2_zpsd9377dce.jpg) (http://s1275.photobucket.com/user/polara6t/media/PL2_zpsd9377dce.jpg.html)
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'49 3As like Tim's with the bottom mount radiators are easier to get to the parking lights. The later ones with the grille mounted radiators are much more difficult.
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Nate beat me to it. The side mount radiator make it pretty difficult to get to the drivers side parking lamp. On mine, I ended up having to cut the wires and pull the grille off before I would get the parking lamps and headlight buckets out. Since I was doing a complete teardown anyway it wasn't a big deal.
Otherwise, you may just try to fit a closed end wrench or socket on there and try to twist it off and break the bolt. If it is a screw holding it in, you are in for a long night. :-/
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Hmmm...
Someday, I hope to see a version of this mysterious late model 3A. I've heard they do exist. ;) I tend to get tunnel vision because of the 2 '49s with bottom mount radiators sitting in my driveway.
Tim
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Thanks to everyone...friendly advice from here and the right tools..Sea Foam..Palm Sized 11/32 box wrench..Oversized Regular Screw Driver and a bruised knuckles. It will be great to get them rebuilt. Now the rest of the big bucket list. If anyone ever has any questions on this not easy job please reach out. I know I'm a newbie and will need a lot of baby sitting to get my Dad's Jeep going again but glad to pay forward anyway I can. Thanks again all!