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3A, 3B, DJ Technical Knowledge Base => "Original"-- Technical Questions, Answers, Observations => Topic started by: racer 1 on May 02, 2012, 10:42:34 AM

Title: 51 ID Plate Photo
Post by: racer 1 on May 02, 2012, 10:42:34 AM: Can anyone send me a photo of their 51 ID Plate. ï¿½My 50 only has ï¿½CJ-3A followed by the serial number.

Guessing the larger 51 tag# is layed out a bit different. ï¿½

Thanks

ï¿½Dan ï¿½ derikson@wi.rr.com ï¿½;)
Title: Re: 51 ID Plate Photo
Post by: Ryan_M on May 02, 2012, 11:09:13 AM: Here is a pic of my original '51 plate followed by the new reproduction I ordered from a guy Poland. I trashed the original one trying to restore it and the local repros I found are junk. The Polish one is excellent:

Original:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z403/rmurdock2121/51%20Willys%20Jeep%20CJ3A%20Rehab/origdataplate.jpg)

Repro:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z403/rmurdock2121/51%20Willys%20Jeep%20CJ3A%20Rehab/DSCN0712.jpg)
Title: Re: 51 ID Plate Photo
Post by: athawk11 on May 02, 2012, 02:56:00 PM: Hey D,
You may know this, but the 1950 plate only has : ï¿½CJ-3A ï¿½ XXXXX.

The 51 started Using 451-GB1 before the serial #. and started over with the first Willys off the line being 10,000.

Here is a great link by Bob W.... ï¿½ http://www.cj-3a.com/Serial%20Numbers.htm

Tim
Title: Re: 51 ID Plate Photo
Post by: CJPilot on May 03, 2012, 04:42:05 PM: Ryan ï¿½Could you share the contact info and cost for the repo ID plate. ï¿½Mine is a sad looking thing.

Thanks

Steve
Title: Re: 51 ID Plate Photo
Post by: Ryan_M on May 03, 2012, 08:57:59 PM: His name is Robert Dudkowski. You can find him on ebay, seller name is "lt.horne". I just checked and he doesn't have anything currently listed but if you check the completed listings you'll see a bunch of stuff. I paid $24.99 +$6.00 shipping for the ID plate. He engraved my original serial number on it, which I think may have cost a few extra bucks. I also later e-mailed him directly and bought the long dash plate - the one with the shift pattern diagrams on it. That cost $52.99 including shipping but is so much better than the US made one I bought. Heavy gauge metal and raised lettering just like my original. Both took about 6 weeks to arrive but well worth the wait. Nothing against Kaiser Willys, but the one I bought from them was a cheap looking screen print thing. The style was not even close to correct and even the font was wrong. Worth the extra money for the authentic looking one IMHO.
Title: Re: 51 ID Plate Photo
Post by: garage gnome on May 03, 2012, 09:30:41 PM: Thanks Ryan! I might have to get a set to make my '53 look even better!
Title: Re: 51 ID Plate Photo
Post by: racer 1 on May 04, 2012, 09:13:31 AM: Tim,

Thanks for the photos! I knew about the numbering deal but wasn't sure about the engraving with the 51 series. My title says 451-GBJ1-xxxxx Not sure why the title has the J listed in the second series?

Maybe our experts can clue me in? Maybe titled off the original engine #????

Dan
Title: Re: 51 ID Plate Photo
Post by: racer 1 on May 05, 2012, 12:01:16 PM: Here's how it appears on the title:

ï¿½ ï¿½451GBJ1 5983

Not sure how the Tag should look? ï¿½ 451-GBJ ï¿½15983 ï¿½?

The J doesn't make any sense to me from what I've seen here. ï¿½ ï¿½Does the Truck or Wagon have a J listed like that?

Normally it would be 451-GB1 ï¿½ ï¿½xxxxx ï¿½by all the lists?

Any thoughts Bob?

ï¿½ ï¿½Dan
Title: Re: 51 ID Plate Photo
Post by: Bob W on May 06, 2012, 08:15:36 PM: Probably a typo. The original title application was handwritten and the number "1" looked like the letter "J". The serial number probably should be 451-GB1 15983
Title: Re: 51 ID Plate Photo
Post by: racer 1 on May 06, 2012, 10:09:28 PM: Thanks All! Figured Bob would be the guy on this one. ;)

Dan
Title: Re: 51 ID Plate Photo
Post by: garage gnome on May 24, 2012, 10:01:38 PM: I got a set of repro plates from here: http://rdrnl.home.xs4all.nl/4UWPIntro2.html They are exact copies from what I could tell. I compared them between my all original '49 3A and I couldn't notice anything different.

In both pics, the top ones are the cheap repops and the bottom ones are the ones I got from dataplates4you.

(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx125/willyscjmj/daf4788e.jpg)

(http://i748.photobucket.com/albums/xx125/willyscjmj/6527c435.jpg)
Title: Re: 51 ID Plate Photo
Post by: Ryan_M on May 25, 2012, 06:45:53 AM: Those look great. Interesting website too. That guy has a little bit of everything.