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Title: help needed frame number
Post by: willem on December 07, 2017, 03:05:58 AM
need some help ,cj3a frame number

I am from Holland/Europe ,at the import inspection,of my cj3a 1951,they are telling me there should be a vin/frame rail code in the frame also ,I think it shouldn�t ,but were can i find any proof/documents that there is no number in the frame on a cj3a?

The body tag is there and looks legit ,i guess they think it�s not 100% original and somebody used another frame (i raised the the body 1 cm and used new bolds)
To be short,
1, any thing which says there is none ,and there should not be a number on a original cj3a frame ,
ore
2. I need a number on the frame witch says it�s the cj3a frame
This is driving me nuts because I won�t get a license plate and can�t drive it
To my knowledge a CJ3A has no frame number ,tried mr google images surge and did not find any cj3a frame numbers

Title: Re: help needed frame number
Post by: oldtime on December 07, 2017, 10:16:56 AM
Double check with Bob W, but 1951 3A certainly did not have a frame number.
I expect the reason was because those frames were factory built and not outsourced.
You might find this close related information  to be helpful....
http://cj3b.info/SerialNos/SerialNosFrame.html
Title: Re: help needed frame number
Post by: squidtone on December 07, 2017, 01:01:20 PM
Willem,
I looked at Bob Westerman's book "The Civilian Jeep Model CJ3A" and on page 3, it states:
"Unlike many other Jeep models, CJ-3A's did not have frame numbers...."

Bob W's book references tons of Willys factory documents and, in my opinion, is considered very technically accurate.
Title: Re: help needed frame number
Post by: willem on December 07, 2017, 01:12:31 PM
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Willem,
I looked at Bob Westerman's book "The Civilian Jeep Model CJ3A" and on page 3, it states:
"Unlike many other Jeep models, CJ-3A's did not have frame numbers...."

Bob W's book references tons of Willys factory documents and, in my opinion, is considered very technically accurate.


this is great info ,thanks allot  :D
Title: Re: help needed frame number
Post by: willem on December 07, 2017, 01:13:29 PM
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Double check with Bob W, but 1951 3A certainly did not have a frame number.
I expect the reason was because those frames were factory built and not outsourced.
You might find this close related information� to be helpful....
http://cj3b.info/SerialNos/SerialNosFrame.html

this is great info ,thanks allot   :D
Title: Re: help needed frame number
Post by: willem on December 07, 2017, 01:18:58 PM
copy paste to the inspector of the RDW ,good info guys thanks
Title: Re: help needed frame number
Post by: willem on December 09, 2017, 03:20:27 AM
 I can�t get an book here in time if I order it , but without telling anyone can anyone send me a copy of that page pls? i can email him ;) :-X  w2w@kpnmail.nl
Title: Re: help needed frame number
Post by: 1955CJ-5 on December 09, 2017, 10:49:43 PM
Will any of this help?..Info from the Home page....

http://www.cj3apage.com/index/Tech_Tips/dating_a_cj.htm

http://www.cj3apage.com/index/Tech_Tips/Production.htm





Title: Re: help needed frame number
Post by: willem on December 10, 2017, 01:46:56 AM
thats writen by bob westerman ::) nothing about a the non excisting number on the frame great info though thanks

but ,somebody on facebook send me a copy of a page of his book :-X were it says "no cj3a left the factory with an frame number"
i have send it to the inspector , now i am waiting for an answer :-? ::)
Title: Re: help needed frame number
Post by: Bob W on December 10, 2017, 07:16:20 AM
Here is page 3.

http://www.cj3a.info/temp/pp3.pdf
Title: Re: help needed frame number
Post by: willem on December 10, 2017, 10:51:44 AM
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Here is page 3.

http://www.cj3a.info/temp/pp3.pdf
thanks :)
didn't rialize you own this page ::)
Title: Re: help needed frame number
Post by: Bob W on December 10, 2017, 04:16:14 PM
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didn't rialize you own this page

This Forum and website are member owned. My website has a slightly different name.