My Willys 3A and 3B Community
3A, 3B, DJ Technical Knowledge Base => "Original"-- Technical Questions, Answers, Observations => Topic started by: Brad on January 16, 2015, 12:51:49 AM
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What type of tires came on a cj3a from the factory? All I see are the military style ones offered by the parts places.
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Check for the super traction.
Military one are square shoulder. Other non square shoulder NDCC tire will be more like tractor tire.
You can use normal day to day tire. Goodyear Duratrac fit perfectly.
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Here's what I believe to be an original Goodyear 6.00 x 16 tire:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z403/rmurdock2121/Misc%20Junk/20150116_053947_zpsda32d0eb.jpg)
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z403/rmurdock2121/Misc%20Junk/20150116_053929_zpsbaadacf8.jpg)
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z403/rmurdock2121/Misc%20Junk/20150116_053940_zps7c0a0bd0.jpg)
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z403/rmurdock2121/Misc%20Junk/20150116_053921_zpsab5be6c3.jpg)
You can see the pencil point tread is a little different than what is found on the never NDT's I have seen. Here's a new one:
(http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z403/rmurdock2121/Misc%20Junk/20150116_054121_zps072694f8.jpg)
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Nice detailed photos Ryan. Pretty neat to see old rubber.
As others have offered, the NDTs and NDCCs were the stock tires for these old beauties.
Original style tires look cool, and have that "feel" you can only achieve in an old Willys with an old style tire.
A modern radial tire will perform better in a variety of conditions.
A tire that has an 'Old School' look, but is said to perform better in certain conditions is the Super Traxion.
When choosing, I guess it always come down to how you use your Willys.
Tim
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Here's what the Super Traxions look like on a 3B.
http://home.comcast.net/~jrburch_h/jeep/jeep.html
I got mine from Universal Vintage Tire:
https://www.universaltire.com/truck-and-military/truck.html
Prices have gone up about 50% since I bought mine in 2009.
Shop around and watch out for shipping costs.
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John,
Your 3B looks very sharp.
Tim
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I agree with Tim. John's 3B is very nice.
I found these tires from Coker through Summit Racing. Best price I've found at $136 plus free shipping.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/cok-67640
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Wow. That is a great price.
And thanks guys for the compliments on my 3B. It's especiall nice from non-3B guys.
:)
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Well, it's one thing to said compliments about tire. It's another about high hood...but i like the red! ;D
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Oh Pascal, they were complimenting the whole thing, not just the tires.
High hoods are beautiful, man.
;) :) ;) :)
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I agree with Tim. John's 3B is very nice.
I found these tires from Coker through Summit Racing. Best price I've found at $136 plus free shipping.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/cok-67640
I have been trying to decide on tires . . I always liked the tread on the TraXion tires in 15" . . but those 16" do look good on johnrb3b's
For this price, I think I am going to order a set. . . thanks for finding the source! :)
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You wont be sorry.. I swapped the NDCC's on my M38 for
the super traxions and wont go back
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(http://i40.tinypic.com/2v19lrn.jpg)
I agree the Super Traxion is a better tire, but the NDT's really catch peoples eye. Then they may not notice how high your hood is. ;D
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Another very nice 3B. Love that color Matto.
Tim
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That is a nice '3B !
The Super Traxions arrived, and just had to try them on! Only 2 of the innertubes were reusable. Here is photo of rear.
(obviously my '3A is not near as complete as the other Jeeps in this thread ;D)
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Nice, from the back it looks ready to go - well except for the lack of a gas tank filler neck showing behind the door cutout. You will need to put the gas tank back in before you can call it done. ;D
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Those look perfect!
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A few weeks ago, I put the STA super traxions on my '2A to try out.
We got our first snow yesterday, and I got a chance to try out the tires in snow today. They did very well. A couple photos:
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Tires and Jeep look great! I never get tired of Jeep pics...
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Thanks! I agree, fun to look at photos.
Here is another taken a couple days ago. The tires did very well in the snow again. Even pulling a trailer, up hill at times, never got stuck. The only time they would spin is in a off-camber turn, uphill. Even then, kept moving.
(http://www.thecj2apage.com/forums/uploads/4918/IMG_9669.jpg)
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great fotos!! no snow here, just wind >:(
Ya-the super traxions are my choice on the "OD MULE M38".
(hope ya latched the hood before getting roadin')
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That's a NICE 2A. [smiley=thumbsup.gif] Looks great with that rubber.
Tim
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Great picture...if it were black-and-white I'd think it was from the 50's....
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Now, what do I see on the rear crossmember? Looks like a pintle hitch and some sort of PTO output????
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great fotos!! no snow here, just wind >:(
Ya-the super traxions are my choice on the "OD MULE M38".
(hope ya latched the hood before getting roadin')
I wondered if anyone would notice the unlatched hood. :-[ In this cold weather, the engine idles too fast when first starting, so I open the hood to slow it down a bit. Since only driving in the woods, I only latch one side.
ATHAWK: That's a NICE 2A. Looks great with that rubber.
Thanks! It is interesting that the more I hang out here and CJ2A page, the more I think skinny tires look cool. :)
1955CJ-5:
Now, what do I see on the rear crossmember? Looks like a pintle hitch and some sort of PTO output????
I power a homemade wood-splitter with the PTO. A pintle hook is SO much easier to hook up than standard trailer hitch. It can be noisy sometimes pulling the trailers or splitter thru the woods, but I can live with that. :)
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Sorry for hijacking thread a little, but thought I would post photo of reason for PTO and pintle.
(http://thecj2apage.com/forums/uploads/4918/SplitterUpdate.JPG)
Definately hijacking a "factory tire" thread . . this photo shows the tires normally on '2A, when not borrowing the Super Traxions from '3A project� �:)
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My CJ3A has the optioned 15" wheels. I was really planning on NDT/NDCC Square Shoulder version but cannot find a 15 inch version. The only patterns I have found are the round shoulder versions. What I really want are those Goodyears above :D too bad those have not been reproduced.
Those original Goodyear Tire picture brought back an amazing memory. The spare on my CJ3A was that original tire and remember it as a kid. Somewhere along the way as tires were changed by my father that tire was removed and replaced with a Firestone snow tire. Anyway time to replace the current set which is +10 years olds.
Welcome any input..might have to go with the STA Super Traxion kinda a closer cousin to the Goodyear. Thanks!
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I was surprised when I checked with Universal Vintage Tire and found that you're right. The only 15" military tire they offer is an NDCC (round shoulder). All the NDT (square shoulder) tires they have are 16".
There is probably one available somewhere. You'll have to spend some time searching all the tire sources on the internet to find it.
I did a quick check at Lucas and Coker. Nothing in 15".
If you want NDT you'll have to get some 16" rims.
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thanks John...appreciate the search and reply. I will continue to do some searching. If the Jeep had not been a part of our family since 1959 I might consider 16s but have to keep it true to the build.
Thanks!
Bob
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I'm going to get these tires for Ted.
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What type of tires came on a cj3a from the factory?� All I see are the military style ones offered by the parts places.
See below the pics and as mentioned looked very familiar to me as the spare tire that was on our Jeep as a kid in the early 60's.
Net if you are a 15 from factory it is STAs or other options.