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Rambling, Malarky, Rants, Etc. => Rambling, Malarky, Rants, Etc... => Topic started by: Quebec Jeep on February 03, 2014, 03:58:54 PM

Title: Koenig winch for sale with PTO on the crankshaft
Post by: Quebec Jeep on February 03, 2014, 03:58:54 PM: It's the first time for me that I saw a winch driven directly from the crankshaft.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Koenig-Model-R100J-Forward-Revers-wbr-e-PTO-Winch-for-Willys-CJ2A-CJ3A-or-CJ3B-Jeep-/261385622613?&_trksid=p2056016.l4276
Title: Re: Koenig winch for sale with PTO on the crankshaft
Post by: F Bill on February 03, 2014, 04:04:28 PM: Sure is different. Isn't he also missing the special pulley driver for the winch? Not that I know what one looks like, but I can't see that one working without something on the end of the crank to drive it.....Other question is how do you power out??
Title: Re: Koenig winch for sale with PTO on the crankshaft
Post by: 1955CJ-5 on February 03, 2014, 06:06:42 PM: I always thought the crank drive was meant for capstan winches......
Title: Re: Koenig winch for sale with PTO on the crankshaft
Post by: Lee on February 03, 2014, 10:19:33 PM: I believe there is a reverser on the end of the winch, what I do not understand is the drive on the front pulley, if you look at the parts list they have there it shows no type of jaw clutch, looks to bolt right to the front pulley somehow ???, so does the winch shaft run all the time???, I would guess there is some very rare drive piece missing from this puzzle. very interesting anyhow 8-)

Lee ;)
Title: Re: Koenig winch for sale with PTO on the crankshaft
Post by: 48cj2a on February 04, 2014, 10:27:01 AM: Koenig and Ramsey both used a crankshaft clutch mechanism off a special pulley that drove a shaft to the winch.
Title: Re: Koenig winch for sale with PTO on the crankshaft
Post by: 1955CJ-5 on February 04, 2014, 10:29:30 AM: The drawing shows Part # 110 as being a Sliding Clutch Member, and parts 9110 as rubber contact blocks. I don't see either in the listing..

My engine has a front pulley with ears on the front face....could those ears be the drive for the rubber contact blocks?

I see Art posted the solution while I was hunting and pecking!
Title: Re: Koenig winch for sale with PTO on the crankshaft
Post by: 48cj2a on February 04, 2014, 01:17:56 PM: Here is the front page that describes its operation a little...
Title: Re: Koenig winch for sale with PTO on the crankshaft
Post by: Lee on February 04, 2014, 07:34:38 PM: Nice pictures Art ;)

Lee ;)
Title: Re: Koenig winch for sale with PTO on the crankshaft
Post by: Grandpa Jeep aka Steve on February 07, 2014, 02:27:00 PM: I have a R100J that is complete except for the C/S pulley and the controls to the cab. I'm having the pulley made and everything else is installed in my early 46.
I'll try and post pictures of the winch before i installed it.
Welcome any questions.
Title: Re: Koenig winch for sale with PTO on the crankshaft
Post by: Grandpa Jeep aka Steve on February 07, 2014, 02:28:41 PM: Here's one more picture.
Title: Re: Koenig winch for sale with PTO on the crankshaft
Post by: Lee on February 08, 2014, 10:21:30 PM: I see the winch has sold for $455, not a bad deal if one could find the rest of the parts or make them.

Steve, so the winch itself is chain driven from the crankshaft driven shaft, Correct ?

Lee ;)
Title: Re: Koenig winch for sale with PTO on the crankshaft
Post by: Grandpa Jeep aka Steve on February 09, 2014, 12:51:47 AM: Yes, that's correct. You can't quite see the sprocket on the shaft that engages the crankshaft.