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Title: 64' CJ6 with factory Perkins
Post by: PeterS on December 16, 2013, 01:03:38 PM
Hey folks, I just joined and wanted to share what I've been working on...but very slowly. I bought it in early 2011 in Vermont.
(http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc417/compostwerks/IMG_3824-1.jpg)

This CJ6 comes with a factory Perkins 4.192 diesel.
(http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc417/compostwerks/IMG_3860.jpg)

It's more or less unmolested. It came with all of the parts specific to the motor including tags and data plates.
(http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc417/compostwerks/IMG_3858.jpg)
Title: Re: 64' CJ6 with factory Perkins
Post by: Ryan_M on December 16, 2013, 04:40:55 PM
Very cool. I didn't know you could get a Jeep of any type with a factory diesel...especially during the CJ-6 era. Keep the pics and progress coming.
Title: Re: 64' CJ6 with factory Perkins
Post by: garage gnome on December 16, 2013, 07:08:20 PM
I think I know the guy you got that from. Was his name Wayne? If so, that is where I got the tub from for my '53.
Title: Re: 64' CJ6 with factory Perkins
Post by: PeterS on December 16, 2013, 07:25:04 PM
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Very cool. I didn't know you could get a Jeep of any type with a factory diesel...especially during the CJ-6 era. Keep the pics and progress coming.

Thanks Ryan

Yes, I understand that Kaiser offered the Perkins from 1955 up to the mid 60's. The records are quite sketchy but from the best I can gather, mine is a 63 or 64. They sold very few Perkins equipped jeeps.

Here are the glow plug and stop controls.
(http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc417/compostwerks/IMG_3857.jpg)

A closer view of the injector pump side of the motor.
(http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc417/compostwerks/IMG_20110622_075728.jpg)

And the lift pump (passenger) side with fender and both batteries removed.
(http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc417/compostwerks/IMG_20110622_075635.jpg)

Thank you for your interest!
Title: Re: 64' CJ6 with factory Perkins
Post by: PeterS on December 16, 2013, 07:32:47 PM
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I think I know the guy you got that from. Was his name Wayne? If so, that is where I got the tub from for my '53.

Yes Nate, that would be Wayne� ::)

The price was right and I'm a sucker for punishment. Far as I can tell, it wasn't run since the 80's. It broke the #2 rod and this happened� :'(

(http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc417/compostwerks/IMG_20110622_075742.jpg)

Here's the vin tag;

(http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc417/compostwerks/IMG_3859.jpg)
Title: Re: 64' CJ6 with factory Perkins
Post by: garage gnome on December 16, 2013, 08:10:17 PM
Oooohhhh. thats not good! If you need a good machine shop, I know one that has fixed worst things than that.

I see you are in Dublin. Do you go to the antique engine show and swap meet there in September?
Title: Re: 64' CJ6 with factory Perkins
Post by: PeterS on December 16, 2013, 08:37:04 PM
Nate, I'm embarrassed to say I haven't been to that show and it's only about one mile away from me!

The pic above is my backup motor which came with the jeep. I have saved the chunk which blew out of the side just in case!

But I did find this� 8-)

(http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc417/compostwerks/Picture_002.jpg)
Title: Re: 64' CJ6 with factory Perkins
Post by: Quebec Jeep on December 16, 2013, 08:54:05 PM
For your information Ryan, Diesel jeep was rare. Mainly made during the Kayser-Willys era.

This one should be a late 1963 or early 1964.

http://www.film.queensu.ca/cj3b/Photos/SerialNumbers/ModelID67p5.gif

This pdf is very good to decode serail number
Title: Re: 64' CJ6 with factory Perkins
Post by: PeterS on December 18, 2013, 07:22:51 PM
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For your information Ryan, Diesel jeep was rare. Mainly made during the Kayser-Willys era.

This one should be a late 1963 or early 1964.

http://www.film.queensu.ca/cj3b/Photos/SerialNumbers/ModelID67p5.gif

This pdf is very good to decode serail number

Hey thanks for posting that doc. I hadn't seen it in a long time!� 8-)
Title: Re: 64' CJ6 with factory Perkins
Post by: PeterS on December 18, 2013, 07:37:44 PM
So I did manage to slowly get the replacement Perkins up to snuff. The crank spins freely and the replacement engine came with a big box of parts like a rebuilt injector pump, a set of injectors, Lucas starter parts. All the rest of the trim is there like the lift pump, high pressure fuel lines, oil filter housing, fuel filter housing, water inlet and outlet.

Rebuilt injector pump.....

(http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc417/compostwerks/IMG_3980.jpg)

The injectors....

(http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc417/compostwerks/IMG_3978.jpg)

Checking the fitting of the pump

(http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc417/compostwerks/IMG_3974.jpg)
Title: Re: 64' CJ6 with factory Perkins
Post by: Jeff_M on December 18, 2013, 08:19:10 PM
Now that's a historical piece.  How cool would it be to get it going again!  Please keep us updated. 
Title: Re: 64' CJ6 with factory Perkins
Post by: Ryan_M on December 19, 2013, 09:56:04 AM
I went from not knowing diesel Jeeps existed to learning of two in a week.I stumbled across a '59 for sale out in Phoenix.

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/cto/4191266092.html
Title: Re: 64' CJ6 with factory Perkins
Post by: Jeff_M on December 19, 2013, 06:50:46 PM
It actually runs!  Gawd, am I glad that's in Arizona, otherwise you'd be paying me back for a certain lunch date we had a few years back.  :-)
Title: Re: 64' CJ6 with factory Perkins
Post by: PeterS on December 19, 2013, 06:59:38 PM
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I went from not knowing diesel Jeeps existed to learning of two in a week.I stumbled across a '59 for sale out in Phoenix.

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/cto/4191266092.html

I reached outa couple of weeks ago to that fella but never got a response. If the body is in very good shape I think it would be a fair asking price. Looks like a PTO winch up front too.

Sounds like there a problem with the transfer case.

The smoke could caused by something as simple as a bad injector or dirty filters.
Title: Re: 64' CJ6 with factory Perkins
Post by: PeterS on December 24, 2013, 05:21:22 PM
This is when I was getting the trim together on the lift pump (passenger's side) of engine....the grey lines on the right are for lubrication. New copper crush washers installed to form 'joints'. The rebuilt lift pump installed on left.

(http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc417/compostwerks/IMG_4013.jpg)

Intake and igniter installed:

(http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc417/compostwerks/IMG_4015.jpg)
Title: Re: 64' CJ6 with factory Perkins
Post by: 1955CJ-5 on December 24, 2013, 08:22:29 PM
Neat...Can't wait to hear it...you must post a video..!
Title: Re: 64' CJ6 with factory Perkins
Post by: PeterS on December 26, 2013, 08:08:24 PM
Continued on with the injector pump side of the engine. The secondary fuel filter housing is on the right of the photo towards the back of the engine.

(http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc417/compostwerks/IMG_3993.jpg)

Installed the rebuilt injector pump with low and high pressure fuel lines. The grey lines above the valve cover are the leak off lines. The leak off system feeds excess fuel that the injectors don't require back to the fuel tank.

(http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc417/compostwerks/IMG_3998.jpg)

It takes a long time to make sure all the lines are plumbed correctly. All these lines have been meticulously cleaned inside and out. Any contamination past the secondary fuel filter would be very bad for the injector pump and fuel injectors. Note the final components of the throttle linkage.

(http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc417/compostwerks/IMG_4001.jpg)

Here's a bigger view of the whole drivers side of the engine. The gray line that passes around the back of the block brings the fuel from the lift pump to the secondary fuel filter. This line is bigger than the high pressure lines. It looks to be 1/4" while the high pressure lines are 3/16". Sorry the pic is a bit fuzzy  ::)

(http://i1210.photobucket.com/albums/cc417/compostwerks/IMG_4021.jpg)

Title: Re: 64' CJ6 with factory Perkins
Post by: 1955CJ-5 on December 26, 2013, 08:20:26 PM
Speaking of fuzzy.....is that a goat back there?
Title: Re: 64' CJ6 with factory Perkins
Post by: Ryan_M on December 26, 2013, 08:39:49 PM
As if I don't feel dumb enough looking at any gas powered engine I am completely clueless looking at a diesel one. This is quite fascinating, please keep it up.

And yes, nice goat. A video of the goat riding in the Jeep would be superb.
Title: Re: 64' CJ6 with factory Perkins
Post by: PeterS on December 26, 2013, 08:58:15 PM
That's Amma, an alpine dairy goat.� ;D

She'd come in handy pulling the jeep, not riding in the back. 8-)

This isn't a barn find, it's a barn build!
Title: Re: 64' CJ6 with factory Perkins
Post by: 1955CJ-5 on December 26, 2013, 09:05:04 PM
My goat experience is limited, but I think I remember a goat preferring a good push instead of pulling.. :D
Title: Re: 64' CJ6 with factory Perkins
Post by: Quebec Jeep on May 07, 2014, 08:55:31 AM
Hi Peter,

This is what I'm looking to install in my DJ-6. I found a CJ-5 with a 4 192 perkins in it.
The seller want 500$ for the whole jeep.
http://www.cj3apage.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1399429782

Do you have more info about that motor like manuals?

Thank
Title: Re: 64' CJ6 with factory Perkins
Post by: Kirkski on May 08, 2014, 07:33:34 AM
Sweet project for sure, love it!