My Willys 3A and 3B Community
Your Projects => Your CJ-3A Project => Topic started by: Tumbleweed on November 05, 2013, 10:33:20 AM
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I am taking a hint from athawk11 and starting my project thread. I really enjoy looking at all the progress that everyone does on their individual projects and very informative.
I will post some pictures tomorrow of the starting point with my 49 leading up to the current status of frame painting.
Got my springs yesterday from KW. Nothing like an early Xmas!
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A little heavy for the stocking maybe, but still pretty nice!
Were the springs made by Crown automotive?
You'll be "drifting along" before you know it...
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I believe that Mike from Kaiser Willy's said they were made in Canada. When I got the boxes the label had Omix Ada (sp) on it. I believe that these things are going to be one stiff ride!
Test fit the windshield to body - I was happy that it did not lean back too far.
I was planning on installing the springs last night but soon realized that I had forgotten to order the pivot bolts - arrrgggg
no worries I have plenty of other stuff to keep me occupied.
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My springs were clearly marked with the Crown logo and shipped out of Sparks Nevada..it's possible that they were still made in Canada or who knows where...and these are pretty stiff..I have 10 leaves front and 9 in the rear.
Your tub looks great!
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Tumble,
Good to see you decided to share your project.� This should be a fun one to watch.
I just got the same spring set.� They look pretty decent.�
Question to George and Randy...Did you, or are you planning to repaint them?� The finish looks okay on my set.� I just don't know if I can trust it.
Tim
PS...Look at me...not even ten posts in, I've already highjacked your thread! :-[ I should be lashed!
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No problem Tim,
My springs came in black but different shades - 1 set is flat black and 1 set gloss! I think what I will do is clean the springs as best as possible and shoot some Master Series AG111 over the top. Instead of using the silver primer I may do a self etch rattle can. I'm not sure how I want to proceed just yet but I will have to paint at some point so all the springs will match.
I called yesterday the folks at Master Series and asked them about the shelf life of the AG111 after it was mixed with part B. They told me 6 hours max so only use what you need. I did my entire frame and a few parts with less than 1 qt. of AG111. I might have about 1/4 of the can left to do everything else that I forgot the first time (spring plates - gas tank strap - shackles) and a few spots of touch up that I missed.
Again, regarding the AG111 after you mix part A and B you will need to thin this out 5 - 10% to get it to spray good. I will do some brush on for some parts as you suggested. When I did the silver primer on a few parts with a sponge roller it went on really nice. I did spray the silver though and it did not require thinning.
I think I have this picture attachment thing going now - after a few runs it gets easier.
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Your tub looks to be in really nice shape. Is this because of a strong effort from you? Or, were you fairly lucky from the start?
Tim
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Tim,
I believe that I just got lucky and this old Jeep had been sitting in west Texas for a long time under a shed. I actually had the entire body and frame chemically dipped in Ft Worth to remove ALL the rust and bondo. I was very surprised at the results as well. The only areas of real concern were the floor pans or should I say the lack of floor pans. The frame was in very good shape but there is some heavy pitting around the battery tray. Not so bad that I would have to replace anything though. I believe that the cost to have the entire body and frame chemically dipped was around $750.00.
Pictures attached from after chem stripping. The tool box floor was in bad shape but the lid and surrounding metal was in great shape.
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Wow...now that's the way to do it!
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Springs FINALLY installed, and yes I did use the spring packing as guards on the rear bumper - I have 2 nice scratches that are just now healing!
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Great work. I'm watching with great interest as I plan to buy Omix springs as well. Did you encounter any difficulty in fitting the springs to the frame or shackles to the springs?
Really swell. Thanks for posting your project.
Scott
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I just noticed your write up in tech talk on the springs. Gonna be fun!
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Yeehaa, finally some progress last night. I had to raise the frame up about 6" so the axles would not bottom out on my cart. Got both the front and rear axle in place and tonight will torque them down. No issues to report with the exception you really need a 2nd person to help when installing the axles. Almost too much for 1 guy to handle. Of course I'm on the plus side of 60. You would think I should know better than lift these by myself. I guess getting too anxious to wait on help is sometimes not a good thing. I did manage to "use my legs" and not my back! (I'm gonna need a few more sets of legs)
I'll keep 'em coming as the build progresses.
George
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Nice job. Where this is a will there is a way. I am in the same boat. Nearly 56 and no one to help. There are ways.
Really looking good. ;)
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That looks great! Nicely done....
When I attached my springs/axles I first attached the springs to the axle, complete with wheels, so I could roll them under the frame that was supported by jack-stands...
Love that cart....are those carpeted supports under the frame?
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The supports are carpet covered. I used 8 - 2X4's that were 32" wide to get the height I wanted. Your idea sounds great on installation as well. Never occurred to me to do it that way. That is why I love the 3A page - lesson learned for next jeep!
I just need to find another garage :)!
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Not much progress lately - been busy with the Thanksgiving holiday and now Christmas decorating. I did manage to get the new blue shocks painted black and installed so things are progressing just at a much slower pace. I was in the process of setting the preload on the king pins but ran out of shims. So you know what that means - order more than I should from Walks - I did manage to get free shipping! The weather has been great in Ft Worth/Dallas but Thursday and Friday looks like we are not getting above the 30's. I'll take a few pictures and post tomorrow of the new shocks installed.
George
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I had an hour to burn last night so I installed the shocks - slow progress this month
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Okay no progress last few days but the weather has been rotten in Dallas/Ft Worth these past few days. Finally received some parts from FedEx/Walks. Thursday I plan on doing final assembly on the knuckles and we will see how that goes, then the rear backing plates to set axle play. Next job will be brakes and misc. parts on the frame. Should be able to mount the transmission/bell hsg. and transfer case to get it out from under my work bench. More progress after Christmas.
George
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My complements on your work so far George, looks great!
By the looks of the activity on the 3A Page I think we are all in a holiday mode. Sit back, put a bow on it and admire your work..
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I hope my tub looks that good! Very nice!
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I'm curious about that chemical dip to remove rust.....Is it specifically for car bodies? What kind of business offers it?
I kinda doubt that someone around here does it but you never know...
Randy
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Hey Randy,
A company in Ft Worth called Metal Rehab did my entire jeep. It really came out nice and gets the rust out of all the cracks and crevices. You can see this on their web page www.metalrehab.com. The shop manager had a CJ2A of his own they were working on in addition to about 6 other classic cars and trucks. Once they get all the rust off and bondo, they spray it with a barrier coating so that it does not surface rust. As long as you keep the parts inside they will not rust for months. When you are ready to do your body work you wash the metal with water and soap then proceed to the next step depending on what stage you are in - primer/body filler/welding/etc.
I figured that the investment (around $750) to do this was worth it since I did not know how rusty the tub was under the 4 layers of paint from the previous owner.
G
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Well I hope everyone had a great Christmas and a Happy New Year. I was able to get a little work done and thought that I would post an update and I hope some helpful information regarding knuckle upgrade/repair. I have a copy of Moses Ludel's handbook and it is very helpful for sure. I did notice there was one little piece of information that would could have been more helpful though (just my opinion). Moses has a great fix for the upgrade to the knuckle. I had 11 of the 12 spindle bolts torqued just perfect and the 12th bolt would not torque (partial stripped out in knuckle casting) I was really upset since I had already stuffed the knuckle with grease! Moses said to use 3/8"-24 grade 8 button head bolts from the backside. This would really improve the durability of the knuckle/spindle/backing plate configuration - making it stronger and eliminating the stripped out threads on the cast iron knuckles. What he did not mention was the length of the bolts. I found that 1.250" worked best and allowed for enough thread on the grade 8 top lock nuts to bite. Believe me 1" will not work! I torqued the nuts to 40 ft.lbs. and it works great. You will also have to grind the knuckle just a little so that you can get full swing of the required turn angle. See the attached pictures.
So after all the reworking and grease packing I thought that I would treat myself to mounting the transfer case and transmission -
Got to order more parts now from Walks!
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That's a very slick fix.� I probably would have wasted time and money tracking down a new knuckle housing.� Thanks for sharing.
Back a few steps...
Do you find it hard to install the shocks, shock washers and pins?� The amount of rubber on the replacement shocks makes is hard to set the pin.� A combination of clamps and channel locks can get them set, but I remember being very frustrated when setting them on the OD Willys.� Short of trimming down the rubber, is there a trick to getting the darn pins set?
Tim
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Tim,
Funny you should ask - heck yes I had a difficult time getting past the cotter pin hole - I used a large "C" clamp and a piece of aluminum that had a slot cut into it so that I would be able to install the cotter pin. I will take a picture of how I did this. The "C" clamp needs to be really heavy duty since you will be using a considerable amount of umph!
George
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Hey Tim,
have a look at the pics to see how I installed the cotter pin. If you have a block of aluminum or brass drill a .75" hole - then drill another hole perpendicular as close to the edge to allow the pin to be inserted and also be able to remove the block once you get the washer compressed. The shock mount is .625".
George
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Very nice work George! Getting a rolling chassis is a milestone in any build.
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I made a similar tool also. Works every time!
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Great idea George. That should make short work of setting those pins. I don't have any chunks of aluminum, but I think I could duplicate it with a piece of mahogany.
Thanks for sharing.
Tim
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Did a little more work this weekend on the steering. Got both tie rods assembled and all the brake backing plates attached. The frame is starting to get heavy as my cart is sagging in the center. I guess my next purchase after the drums are turned, brake lines installed and, and brakes are installed will be to get some tires so I can roll the chassis around.
The tie rods looked a bit odd angled down like they are but I guess that is what they are supposed to look like.
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Hey George. Looking good.
My tie rods are currently at the same angle. When you get the weight back on the axle, they will straighten out a bit. Right now, you are almost at full extension.
I know you won't want to take them back off, but I have found that installing all the brake components to the backing plate, prior to installation, is a little easier on my back. Potato...Pototo, I guess.
Tim
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You are right about installing the brake components prior to attaching the backing plates. I have also read that it is much easier. Since I pulled the front knuckle off 3 times the backing plates will be a easy. Glad I have my air wrench!
Oh yea, got my U-joints installed on the drive shafts and now I think I will have a problem since one of the U-joints is stiff after installation. Easier to repair now than on the trail. I may have lodged a needle bearing in the bottom of the bearing cap during the assembly process -
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I may have lodged a needle bearing in the bottom of the bearing cap during the assembly process -
Been there before. >:(� Those are pesky little bearing to keep in place while fighting the U joints into position.� I wish I could offer a 'Trick'.� If there is one, I haven't figured it out yet. :D
Tim
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Updates - 1-27-14
Temperature 74 on Sunday and I had a couple of helpers (my sons). Did what I call a dry fit to make sure all bolt holes lined up, and alignment check. Starting to look like a real Jeep! Even the wife got excited - said it looked cute!
Guess I will leave it this way until I get the brake system replaced, drums turned, bearings replaced and all brake lines and fuel lines installed. Hope I can get this done next week.
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Nice to have a few extra hands around. Are your sons as excited about the project as you are?
Tim
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Yea, you can tell from the smile on their faces. My youngest has already made claim to the jeep. I was going to do some work last night but our temps have been 19 - 22 in the mornings and doesn't warm up much in the afternoon. I don't have a heater anymore so right now I am waiting for a little warmer weather. Going to get my brake drums turned and a few studs replaced this weekend. I wanted to finish up on the brakes pretty soon. Liked the kit from Walks so I will put in my order this next week. Had some bad news - my radiator is shot - carl (carlsjeep) used Champion alum radiator and said he was very happy with it. Mine is a bottom mount so everything should fit well. Keep ya posted.
Thanks,
George
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Well not much to report lately - too cold to play in the garage, had a stomach virus earlier this week, inflamed muscle in my back, ran out of
hidden jeep money last month.
Thinks are looking up though - got my last box of brake parts and the temp is almost 70 today with a good outlook for this weekend.
I gotta find a better hiding spot for my Benjamin's ;D
Starting to get into the big ticket items - tires - engine - wiring harness - etc.
Keep ya'll posted.
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Okay, I've been busy with a ton of other projects but now I am back on the '49. By the way Tim, got my son moved to Centennial last week - took a quick trip to Georgetown to get ice cream and a burger - what a great day!
Got a complete brake line kit from Walks the other day and installed last night. Most of the lines were a direct fit with the exception of the long frame line (front to back) that will require you to bend 90 degrees to fit inside the support to the rear hose. I called Walks to verify and he said yes that is what's required. They bend it in such a way to accommodate shipping.
I had the mdl 41 rear end. Sending pictures of installation tomorrow.
More work tonight - just me and the mosquitos!
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Great job! Keep posting pictures of your progress
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I got the same brake line kit. Very nice. I too had to bend that particular piece. I think that would be one strange shaped shipping box I they didn't bend it that way. Easy enough to manipulate it back into shape though.
Georgetown is a neat little historic town. They put on a pre Christmas festival and parade that my Mom insists on attending. It is pretty festive.
I'm glad you had some fun while in Colorado.
Tim
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Pictures of the brake line installation - still needs a clamp or two but almost done.
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How do you get 470 lbs of engine in a Nissan?
Very carefully and in pieces..........going to the engine shop this morning...YEAAAAA........
Hope to get it back in about 4 weeks.
I'll keep you posted - Hey Tim nice weather in Denver this morning!
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Beautiful work!!! When you pick that engine up you will put it in the back seat, wrapped in a blanket...
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Nice!� I was wondering about your engine.� I don't think you've mentioned it much.�
I can imagine how excited you'll be when the machine shop calls to tell you 'It's all done.� Come and git 'er!"
Our Front Range weather has been very odd this year.� We usually have a run of days where we reach 100 + degrees.� Hasn't happened.� We also get pretty dry during the summer.� Not true this year.� It has been the coolest, wet summer that I can remember.� Don't get me wrong.� I'm not complaining.� My only complaint is having to replace a 4 year old roof because I got hit by large hail...again.
Tim
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The engine has been back from the machine shop now for about a month and I'm still putting parts together while I am working on priming and sealing the tub. Had a great weekend to paint but ran out of primer/sealer *#@!.
No worries I have another great weekend coming up so I hope to finish the 1st coat and I will send pics. In the meantime here is a shot of the engine with the filter and a few other parts.
Hey Tim, its getting a little cool in the mornings already in Colorado! Hope you scored a heater for your wifes rig!
Posting more pics this week.
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The engine looks awesome!� Nice Work.
I have a couple old� heaters to choose from, but I don't think either will make it back on Whitey.� If you have a desire for either of these, say the word!! :)
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Thanks for the offer Tim but I have a good one ready to keep the misses toes warm next fall color tour!
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Just a few shots of the tub after I did a primer/sealer on the underside. I also used a 3M rubberized coating #088832 in the tool box area. I figured that it would not hurt to give it more protection. It can also be painted over so it will get painted once I get the primer/sealer applied. Then after sanding and some additional minoir body work more primer, sanding and then paint! The tub actually looks like a transformer sitting on its rear!
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Well I purchased a rear seat frame from Vintage Jeeps in Texas (made by MDJ). I figured I would get myself an early Xmas present. The rear seat frame was packaged up really nice with protective wrap and corrugated packing. The rear studs (as I call them) do not look like the original OEM but I think they will work just fine. I couldn't wait to test fit it in the tub and it fit very well - correct height and angle. Overall I am pleased.
Now I am just waiting on parts for the engine. Got the last coat of sealer/primer on last weekend.
One of the pictures is a little fuzzy but you can see the rear seat frame and black primer/seale tub.
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Well after our 11 earth quakes yesterday and today, I figured I might need to step up production in case I have to flee for the hills of Colorado!
Engine is finally in place, Ryan is sending me a genny, and the earth for the moment has not moved -
More work tonight and then this weekend I put brake fluid in and make adjustments.
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Yes that is a bird of paradise next to my right rear tire!
Attached a corrected picture.
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I heard about those quakes. Crazy. Did you feel any of that?
Your chassis is looking terrific. I see some body mounts. Are you getting set to mount your tub?
Tim
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Yep felt the 3.5 on Tuesday and it shook the building - it really felt wierd and sounded like sonic boom! The other 10 aftershocks were not as bad but still one wonders waht is causing this activity.
Yes those are body mounts that I have in the battery tray. I did a dry (test) fit of the tub a while back to make sure al the holes and parts lined up before I got serious about painting again. Now its too cold to paint so I will have to put this off until warmer weather - most likely around March. My plan is to follow your procedure and get my rig running up and down the neighborhood to see if anything falls off, leaks, or sounds funny before I put the tub on. My plan is to put brake fluid in this weekend. I just talked to Ryan on the telephone and he is sending me a generator! I'll get it checked out and installed as soon as possible. I told him now he has a little part of Main on my project.
I need to get a better iphone for clearer pictures!
I got my carb back from Scoutpilot and he did a fantastic job - looks like a showpiece! I'll get it mounted tonight and snap a few pictures.
George
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I really need to do a spell check!
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No worries George. It's so cold up here right now that the "e" has frozen and fallen off the word "Maine" anyways. Very nice chatting with you today. Great group of guys we have here on this page!
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Got the carburator installed last night so I thought I would send the updated pictures. Scoutpilot really did a great job on the rebuild and I can't wait to get the CJ cranked up. The really neat thing about his work is that he sends out a video with YOUR carburator installed on his rig running. Ryan sent me a generator and as soon as it thaws out from the trip I will get it checked out and installed as well. Tim, your ears should be burning since Ryan and I mentioned your work and had very high regards for the meticulous craftsmanship. Ryan said you probably have more patience then both of us but I am sure trying to keep up! ;D
I just get too anxious sometimes and I have to slow down and take a step back.
Oh well I'm trying to stay on track so brake fluid and adjustments this weekend.
Stay warm my friends!
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Well I purchased a rear seat frame from Vintage Jeeps in Texas (made by MDJ).
Before you order cushins and covers for the back seat, make sure you measure the pans and call the company you are ordering from. MD Juan was having an issue with putting the incorrect pans on the 3A frames for a while and there are still some floating around. I received one and had to get a cover specifically made for it. Check out my thread under the Body and Frame section.
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That ScoutPilot does some beautiful work. That is simply awesome.
Tim, your ears should be burning since Ryan and I mentioned your work and had very high regards for the meticulous craftsmanship. Ryan said you probably have more patience then both of us but I am sure trying to keep up! ;D
I appreciate that, but I've seen the effort both you and Ryan put into your projects. Trust me, I've got nothing on you guys.
Tim
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Looking great George!
Before you know it, you'll be like Tim there and looking for your second project. Tim has talent and is a great asset to this site.
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Tim has talent and is a great asset to this site.
2 times! [smiley=s7075.gif]
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You guys are all too kind.
Thank you.
Tim
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Mark you are correct the rear seat is the same size for the back and bottom pan. I saw this on an earlier post and I was glad someone posted the discrepancy in the bench seat.
If I ever do get a third jeep I'll have to hide it at my buddies house!
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went through and checked out this whole thread. it was pretty interesting. all of your work looks great. I was especially interested in the body tub dipping. i'll have to look into that. also, thanks for the idea on the shock cotter pins. I saved the pics for when I get to that point.
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Glad you enjoyed my build project. There is a ton of great information on this forum and a fantastic group of people to help you through any tough jobs.
This forum is addictive!
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yes, it is.
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Okay spring is almost officially here! The bradford pear trees are starting to bud out with the white flowers and Macy's summer collection of bikini�s has hit the racks!
Let me get back on track -
I thought that I would post some pics. of my sloooowwwwww progress this winter. I did not get my buddies heater so I did not spend much time in the cold garage this winter. Temps are starting to warm up and I need to get serious about completing this project in plenty of time for Fall Color Tour 2015.
I have been going over items that I hastily put together and not pleased with the outcome such as my steering box (2nd rebuild) and checking timing position of the oil pump and distributor to for the 4th time.
I received my exhaust from Walks a few weeks ago so I thought I would post the pictures.
I also spent way too much time considering generator vs alternator. The generator that I had turned out to be a 6V and needs rebuilding, so I purchased a 1 wire alternator - mounted it to the engine and decided it just didn't look right - "I like the old school look" as Tim put it. Be watching the for sale section for a soon to be new alternator post!
Still need to get my fuel pump, coil, voltage regulator, plug wires, plugs, wiring harness, and battery. Oh yes and my replacement thermostat housing - you'll see what�s missing in the pics.
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I also spent way too much time considering generator vs alternator. The generator that I had turned out to be a 6V and needs rebuilding, so I purchased a 1 wire alternator - mounted it to the engine and decided it just didn't look right - "I like the old school look" as Tim put it. Be watching the for sale section for a soon to be new alternator post!
Is that the generator I sent you? I think we both thought that was sure to be a 12V. Bummer.
And I'm curious how you are so acutely aware of current inventory of women's wear at Macy's. I'm pretty sure you don't work there sooo.....on second thought, don't answer that. ;D
Your project looks great.
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Yea it was a 6V and worn out but made a good donor!
Now the Macy's thing - just passed by that department on my way to the gun shop and chain saw display! :D yeaaaa that's where I wuz..........
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Lookin' good George!
Not entirely sure how to respond to the swim suit conversation...except to say...I like bikinis!
...on girls! ;D ;)
Tim
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Okay - May 11th was a great day. I rolled out the CJ, got the oil pump primed, checked all the fluids, connected the battery and made sure I didn't have it in gear ;D. Took about 15 seconds to get gas up the the beautiful carb that Scoutpilot rebuilt and presto - SHE'S ALIVE!
Good oil pressure and the genny charges. I will need to do some fine tuning but I am so happy to have a running engine. I really feel like I have made some progress after 2 1/2 years. Now that the weather is getting better its on to the body for another coat of primer and paint.
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That is truly awesome, I am a ways behind you but I hope to be at the same place in a month or two.
I love your dash panel! Nice job thanks for sharing
Kirk
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That's awesome George...but...I think we will need a "Proof Of Life" video! :)
Tim
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Thanks Tim and Kirk,
As soon as I can get my Beverly Hillbilly seat installed and the rain subsides you will have proof! I probably will start tonight on the wooden floorboard.
Thanks guys..........
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I keep watching your video, it fires me up even more to get my jeep going.
Can't wait to see your first ride!
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Kirkski's post made me look closer at your post. I found the video!
We have..."Proof of Life". !!!
It sounds great. Congratulations!
Tim
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Okay don't pay any attention to my wife's comments! The Jeep runs almost perfect. This is the first run but I have a slight problem with the tranny. I will post the video but my appologies if it is sideways........
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1 more time
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Okay now the rub - in 1st gear the tranny has a slight whine but 2nd and 3rd - well you can hear the problem. Any ideas what the heck is going on? I tried to isolate the sound and it sounds like in the area of the shift column. Guess I'll have to tear down, inspect and rebuild.
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Can you feel anything through the shift lever? If you put a slight pressure on the lever does the sound change? I'm thinking it might be the shift forks.....
you might start with the shift tower and look for wear spots on the forks...
The drive down the street looked and sounded great!
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I'll try a little pressure on the lever - I did not think to do this but the noise is definitely isolated to the shifter area.
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Well, the motor sounds great at least. Without digging back through your thread, what's the history on that transmission? Have you done anything to it?
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I did a rebuild on the transmission but not all the gears were replaced. I have new syncro's, new second gear, and new bearings (Walks kit). I will try in get a few picture the next night or two. I did notice a leak from the bell housing this weekend so I am thinking about replaceing the front bearing with a sealed type bearing.
Need to find out how to plug the hole under the front bearing.
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Can you remove the inspection cover and verify that the throw-out bearing isn't rubbing on anything?
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Awesome first run.� Congratulations. 8-)�
Sounds good in 1st.� How does it sound in reverse?� I'm thinking the boys are on to something.� It almost sounds like a scraping noise.� �The 2nd and 3rd gears are shifted with the small fork.� I wonder if it's twisted and putting uneven pressure on the clutch/synchro hub?�
Tim
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Amazing work.
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[size=12]Tumbleweed. You do us all proud. [smiley=cool.gif][/size][/b]
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Tumbleweed Great video, looking like it was fun
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Thanks for your support gent's.......I took the transfer case and transmission off last night (forgot how heavy the sucker was). I did remove the top cover to see if there was anything rubbing before the tear down process. I think that may be the problem as there was no initial signs of gear damage or shavings in the bottom of the case. I am going to clean everything up, measure shafts and mating parts, then assemble. Should have video by next week. I am going to have to get new gaskets so it may take a while.
- Sounds great in reverse and 1st gear - just 2nd and 3rd - I'm also looking into the forks since I did rebuild the upper section as well. Hope I get them in the correct position. This time I'll leave the beer in the fridge until i'm done! ;)
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Looks great! Can you post a picture of the front shackle looking straight at it. Mine seem to have a bunch of play between the spring and the shackle. Trying to figure out if that is normal.
Thanks
Dan
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I'll get a picture tonight -
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Thanks!
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DTFM33 - hope this is what you were looking for.
George
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Well looking into the possible rubbing issue I think that this may have been the problem. The attached video shows small specs of what would appear to be bright metal and some brass! I think that the front bearing washer is one of the problems as I observed a pattern possibly from the main drive gear but I'm not totally convinced. On the first rebuild I did not replace the main drive or the main shaft so I'm going to replace them and inspect al mating surfaces for rub/wear. I should have this ready for assembly this weekend and I will post a video.
Thanks guys for the good advice!
George
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Hey George,
Point me in the right direction... Are we looking at the bottom of the T-90 case?
Tim
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Yes sir - The drain plug is just off to the left. I tilted the case so you could see the metal particles flowing towards the rear of the case. I think all the small shavings settled to the drain area and there were no large chunks thank goodness. I believe that there must be some interference issue.
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DTFM33 - hope this is what you were looking for.
George
Thank you George! I should have been more descriptive. Can you get one looking straight at the grease zerk in the shackle. What I am trying to verify how much play there is between the shackle and the spring itself.
Thanks
Dan
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1 step forward 2 steps back!
Got the transmission back together a few days ago with a new main shaft and another new second gear in hopes of eliminating the gear whine. I thought that I found the problem with the omission of 1 needle bearing and a worn main shaft. I forgot how heavy the transmission and transfer case were again but was reminded very quickly on the re-install process. Got everything buttoned up and no leaks � yeaaaaa � took Smokey (official Jeep name) out for a test spin and the transmission shifted like butter � (butta) � shifted into second and arrrrrggggg � the darn whine was still there � shifted into 3rd and whine got worse. Okay by this time I�m really getting torqued � I�m hot, the mosquitos are chasing me and I am at a loss for kind words. I decided to shift into 4 WD to see if there was any change in the noise. I can tell you there was a change � it got louder in 2nd and 3rd, both L4WD and H4WD. About 10:30 I decided to google T18 transfer case issues and low and behold some guy with a CJ5 had the exact same noise in 2nd and 3rd gear � now I�m thinking it�s the output shaft in the xfer case. Going to pull the 80lb transfer case out tomorrow and do another rebuild to see if this helps. The bearings, seals, intermediate shaft are new but all the other parts are original. I have a busy travel schedule the next 2 weeks so a little slow progress is expected.
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Dan,
My appologies - I will get your pictures tonight!
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No rush George. This is a long project.
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Heck George. That bites.
Is the noise essentially the same as before?
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Yes, and I thought that the shift tower was at the root cause. I should have known early on to do a through overhaul on the Xfer case - I have to remember slow down and don't rush the project.
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Hey Dan,
Is this what you were looking for?
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Paint samples
Harvest tan and orange. I know this is not the standard CJ3A color but I like it!
Going to try and get a little painting in the 4th of July weekend. I'll see how far I get.
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Hey Dan,
Is this what you were looking for?
Perfect! Exactly what I needed. Thank you!
Dan
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Just a little update - I am leaving for Tel Aviv this weekend for a week so no Jeep work - dang..........
Got my 5 tires from Cooker on Monday and ready to mount them on the rims. I used Dr. Tims :) Sharpie method and the pinstripe turned out great. The body is coming along but I still need about 2 weekends to do this. Got my seats ordered from Beachwood so I should see them in about 4 weeks - I hope.
More pics to come.
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The rims a darker than the picture above.
Another shot and closer to the real thing.
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Wow. The colors look great. One of my favorite 2A combos. I haven't seen a 3A in the color set, so I'm anxious to see it all together.
Have a safe and fun trip.
Tim
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Thanks Tim
I really liked the color combination as well. I got dark brown seats so it should really pop! Not looking forward to its first scratch but I didn't build it to trailer it to shows.
I just mounted the wheels on the rims and I can tell you I would not do that again! That was a 2 beer job, I mean a tough job! Plus it's getting hot in Dallas.
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New shoes for Smokey!
A little update - after rebuilding the transfer case with a new intermediate shaft, gear, and all new bearings I am happy to report that the transmission/transfer case shifts and does not whine! Yeaaaaaa..............
Now to continue the painting process - its getting really hot in Dallas but I should be done painting this weekend. I will not attempt to paint another Jeep in a make shift paint booth, it's just to hot, bad lighting, and not enough room to move around. I may decide to paint the tub outside early in the morning when all the neighbors cars are gone!
Any thoughts on painting in the open environment?
Looking forward to FCCT!!!!!!!!!
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New rubber and wheel install day is a great day. Looks great. Looking forward to meeting you soon. Hopefully I'll have mine back together by FCT time. :-/
Tim
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It is looking great and I'm happy you solved your transmission/TC noise problem..
Did you get a new intermediate gear from the usual vendors or did you find a NOS?
They are much more fun to drive when they are quiet and you can hear that motor purr.....!
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I got the new intermediate shaft and gear from Walks as well as the gear. Since I replaced all the bearings (again) I don't know if it was just the shaft or gear but what the heck - since I had it open and out I did not want to go through this again. And yes it is so much better -
Got more work done on the Jeep this weekend and I am FINISHED painting! Just waiting on seats from Beachwood, and new glass now. Next picture I send will be the completed job.
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What the heck? Where are all the photos showing the crew setting the tub????
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Hey Tim,
I was the crew, thanks to my heavy duty sawhorse and engine hoist. :)
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Getting 1 step closer! Tonight the windshield goes on -
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As promised - windshield is mounted with new safety glass!
Seats are arriving Tuesday from Beechwood Canvas (front and back) Headlights are mounted and just waiting for the paint to dry on the bezels. (Thanks to Ryan_M for the generous offer - I owe you Ryan!)
Already got my first scratch on the fender! Its okay the Jeep looks great from 30' ;)
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Sweet looks really nice!
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I'm feeling lucky. I, along with some other 3A Page folks, will have the opportunity to see this Willys live and in person...in just a few weeks. :)
I will conjure up a list of folks that are rumored to be at the Thirsty Dirt Ranch and post it in the "Events" area.
Great Work Tumbleweed!!!
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Thanks Tim,
Well its not the end of the world but last night I was installing the fuel tank and it fit under the seat just fine but the holes in the bottom did not line up correctly with the fuel tank inlet and drain. I purchased new floor pans a couple of years ago and the drain hole and fuel line holes were already pre drilled. Near as I can tell they are about 1" off center so tonight I will make a new BIGGER hole X2. I'm sure I'm not the first to have this issue but I wish I would have noticed this on my original fit process. No worries though - no one will ever notice since it is under the fuel tank.
Hood on and waiting for seats - wipers, wiring almost done (50%), and a few other minor details. Man I'm glad I am almost done -
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Looks great. Keep those pics coming!
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[size=12]Looking gorgeous.[/size][/b]
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I'm officially legal now - look out Colorado here I come!
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Oh yea - typical registration office toung lashing - the office told me to clean my tag up with steel wool or I might get pulled over for a rusty plate. I told her yes I would take care of that right away ;)
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I love the fact a lot of states allow the use of vintage license plates. Of course communist Rhode Island doesn't allow it, they can't make money on it apparently. As a license plate collector this is really great for me!
Thanks for the pics!!
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Looking forward to the Colorado Fall Color Tour. Now to drive Smokey around town and a few rough roads to see if anything falls off or breaks for the next few weeks.
It was almost 100 degree that day by the way - radiator spit out a little coolant and I think I got a vapor lock???? When I got home it sputtered a little and I looked under the hood - the glass AC filter bowl was only half full and it appeared that the gas level was fluctuating up and down!! I wonder if I am boiling the gas out?
Going to use some insulation on the fuel line from Summitt to see if this helps.
Overall I was very pleased with the maiden voyage!
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WOW!! You really kicked it in high gear the last couple of months! See ya at the FCT!
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George,
Almost looks too crisp to take on the wild trails of Colorado. ;)
Very nice. Congratulations.
Burping a bit of coolant may be that you just over-filled it a bit. I've had this happen to me also...but only after I refilled, or replaced the coolant. Then it doesn't do it again.
I looked back at your fuel lines in past photos. You look like you did a good job of keeping them away from the manifolds. 100� is even hard on a modern vehicle, so I don't know that I would be too concerned just yet. The float could need a slight adjustment, or something else minor. I once had an issue with my filter. I didn't tighten the screw enough. The screw that pinches the glass against the top. I was drawing in some air and had a stumble.
Were you at a stop during the stumble...or on the throttle?
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Over at the Model A forum I learned that tin foil and clothes pins on the fuel line can help stop vapor lock....looks good too!!
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Or maybe a grapefruit...
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Thanks guys
I think that I may have overfilled a bit. I drove it around again tonight and no boil over. I did have the same issue with the fuel filter bowl after the engine warmed up. The fuel level in the filter bowl was half full. I felt the fuel lines and they were cool. I may tighten the clamp a little more and make sure I am not sucking in air. I did notice the the carb was really warm almost hot. Is it normal for the carb to get hot?
I'll try and avoid any big rocks on the tour!
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I think it is normal for the carb to get hot because of where it sits. Gasket provides some insulation from direct heat transfer. But heat radiating from the manifold is quit big. Top of the carb should be significantly cooler then the bottom half though.
If you think it's a problem or for ease of mind you could use heatwrap like they use on the manifolds of turbocharged cars to minimize heat radiation from the manifold to carb. But if it was a big problem they probably would have made some kind of heat shielding straight from the factory.
I can imagine it could cause some problems if your in a region with constant high temperatures.
No doubt though about things running cooler is better for performance, efficiency and keeping your engine healthy wheter it is the engine itself or any parts attached to it. Modern non corrosive coolant is alot healthier for old engines then just water like they used in the "old days" and we pour that in happily along with the right modern oils so fabricating some heat shielding to keep the carb cooler could'nt hurt either. It' s not a matter of "it works so why bother" but if you can improve it with minor reversable modifications, why not.
Fabricate something yourself similar to heatshielding between manifold and the brake cilinder on the vaccuum powerbrake unit in modern cars. Or find some of that double sheet insulation they use between exhaust and floorpanels in modern cars.
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My compliments on your 49 3A project, nicely done!
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That really looks great, well done sir!
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May just be the Texas heat but my 53 wagon never had this problem of fuel starvation.
Of course the F head may react a bit different in hot climate. I am still going to check to see if I am sucking in air from the AC filter bowl.
I can't believe how much fun driving the 3A is. I got so many waves and honks last Saturday.
Called Beachwood canvas and they gave me about a 4 - 5 week lead time on a top so I may have to make a a homemade top to keep the snow/ rain off my head. Mike said they already got done snow in the high country.
Thanks guys for all the compliments. Now I'm looking forward to seeing other CJ projects.
Thanks again
George
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One last post on my build thread and a big THANK YOU to all the folks that gave me good advise and encouragement throughout the process. Ryan, the bezels look great after some minor repair and paint. Can't wait to run the mountains in Colorado in about 4 weeks. I'll be working on getting a canvas top after CFCT so I guess there will be at least 1 more post after this one.
Thanks again......
George
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It just looks great! That is a really nice color combination...
Will you highlight the "Willys" stamps?
Are those 15" wheels?
And post pictures while on the tour!
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I thought about highlighting the WILLYS but after some thought and the wife's recommendation not to do it :) - I decided against it!
7.00 X 16 on the Firestone tires. I had to adjust the stops on the steering so the tires did not rub on the springs but I don't think this is a problem with turning since it is such a short wheel base anyway. I just liked the look of the larger tires.
I'm sure there will be plenty of photo ops in CO this year. If I had a long enough trailer I would take my 53 wagon and CJ.
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Fantastic looking Jeep, best of luck with it!!
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Congratulations George, that's as good as it gets...
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Congratulations George, that's as good as it gets...
Well said!
Kind of sad to see the journey end. You'll just have to fill our emptiness with lots of escapades. :)
Tim
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Fantastic! There's something about that wheel color on flatties that is awesome. Thanks for posting those pix...it's a nice booster for me to see CJ3a's in they're original state.
Enjoy it!
dave
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So what's the next project ? ;D
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Hey Ryan,
If I had my choice I would like to have another CJ but I' going to let the wife get over this one first! :)
I dare not to compare my CJ habit with her purse collection! I'm just not going there!
One day she will come home and I'll have another one sitting under the carport.
Seriously:
I'm going to start working on the transmission and oil leaks on my wagon next. I have an overdrive that I need to get installed so after FCT in a few weeks I will put together a plan to get this done.
Thanks again for your donations to my project!!!!!! Hope I can return the favor one of these days.
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Just a little update on Smokey, I finally got around to hooking up my wipers and thought I would share some photos of the result. I did not attach anything to the windshield because I did not want to drill more holes! The vacuum wipers work very well and I am pleased with the look.
George
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Looks awesome!
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Those look great! Dual motors. Very fancy!!! 8-).
Tim
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Beautiful. Looks brand new. John
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Thanks guys - I hope I get a chance to use them one day.
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Really nice detail!
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Did you cad plate your latches? That's what I'm doing with a lot of my parts.
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Nice clean job on the wipers. The hose line between the two wipers are the clamps holding it just screwed on or bolted on thru the windshield?
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New bikini top for Smokey!
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Awesome! Sounds like you may get to use it.
The way people are talking, it may be a bit chilly at the FCT this year. I don't know. We have been met with heavy dust and severe sun burns the last 4 years. I'm hoping it won't be too cold, but the law of averages are bound to catch up eventually.
Tim
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Nice clean job on the wipers. The hose line between the two wipers are the clamps holding it just screwed on or bolted on thru the windshield?
Birddog7 - sorry for the late answer - yes the SS clamps are bolted thru the windshield that hold the vent in place. I didn't want to drill any new holes so I used the existing 2 holes.
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Update to my build. I decided to install my Harrison heater that I restored. It replaced my older and smaller Harrison that was about 1/2 the size. This should keep the wife's feet warm on those cool September mornings in Colorado!
Now I just need to complete the installation with the Willys sticker, and then again I may just leave it like it is.
Tumbleweed.......
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Nice!
This leads me to the next obvious question. But perhaps a question that should be answered after a cold and rainy FCT.
Given the choice, would you prefer a heater...or a glove box? ;)
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HOT Stuff..
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Tim,
Definitely a heater! I think Lynn will be much happier with more warmth in the mornings. And if she's happy - I'm happy!
Good to hear from you........see you soon....
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Did the upgrade to the clutch rod today (see Lkaps thread). Really going to make me feel better on the trails. The price for yokes has gone up a little. I got them at ACE Hardware for 9.98 ea. I thought that was highway robbery but HD and Lowes did not have them. No big deal as they are just like Tims!
Thanks Tim for the pictures.
Hope to see you soon!
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George, I felt the same about the cost but am sure glad I made the improvement. Throw the old one in your parts kit for the next guy that breaks one on the trail.
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Ace Hardware fills a niche, but I realize going in that I will be paying a premium for their choice to carry an extensive inventory. I purchased the clevis pieces from a vendor on eBay. Half the price, but I had to wait for them.
Glad you built the upgrade. It does give you piece of mind. Especially if you've broken one while away from home. I carry the original style in my parts kit...just in case one of my friends needs it. [smiley=s4224.gif]
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Tom and Tim,
Yes after I got the new parts installed I even felt better. And I did exactly what you said, I put the old one in the spare parts just in case someone on the trail needs a quick fix.
See you guys soon........... :)