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Posted by: Rus Curtis
« on: July 12, 2021, 08:09:35 PM »

Quote from: Mytwojeeps2020 on July 12, 2021, 06:40:08 PM
Update and resolution:

The new TL900 turn signal came in (which I mentioned on another post). Very hefty, and appears very well made.

However, I didn’t install it.

I decided instead to mount the second switch from KW, which I had before the TL900 came in. We wrapped a rubber hose around the steering column as an insulator and the thing is now working.

The reason I did not use the TL900 is that my bill at the auto electrician was climbing astronomically. So, I went straight to surrender to save some $.

Like the first switch, KW quickly did a refund. So, I went through three of these switches before we got one to work (2 from KW, 1 from Amazon).

My guess is that the Chi Coms are slipping on the quality of their work…

Thanks again, all, for all your advice. I’ll reorder the TL900 (as you suggested I get, Russ) if this latest fix fails.


Wow!  What a mess!  Hope it holds up for a while!

Oh, and congrats on getting it to work!
Posted by: Mytwojeeps2020
« on: July 12, 2021, 06:40:08 PM »

Update and resolution:

The new TL900 turn signal came in (which I mentioned on another post). Very hefty, and appears very well made.

However, I didn’t install it.

I decided instead to mount the second switch from KW, which I had before the TL900 came in. We wrapped a rubber hose around the steering column as an insulator and the thing is now working.

The reason I did not use the TL900 is that my bill at the auto electrician was climbing astronomically. So, I went straight to surrender to save some $.

Like the first switch, KW quickly did a refund. So, I went through three of these switches before we got one to work (2 from KW, 1 from Amazon).

My guess is that the Chi Coms are slipping on the quality of their work…

Thanks again, all, for all your advice. I’ll reorder the TL900 (as you suggested I get, Russ) if this latest fix fails.
Posted by: Mytwojeeps2020
« on: July 02, 2021, 11:25:13 AM »

Thanks, Rus. Happy 4th!
Posted by: Rus Curtis
« on: July 01, 2021, 10:43:16 PM »

Quote from: Mytwojeeps2020 on June 27, 2021, 08:59:07 AM
Update:

Both turn signal devices worked fine, UNTIL I tried to connect them to the steering column, and then they grounded out and blew the fuse.

KW is sending me a new one. They told me they didn’t need the old one back, so I had a car electrician autopsy it. Inside, he found no insulating parts separating the power line from the casing, and two wires that were the reverse of what was pictured on the diagram. There was also a plastic part that connected various wires that he could not repair.

The new one should be in today, so I’ll keep you posted.


They sent you a new one but didn't want the old one back..... They may know something they're not saying about their supplier.  This isn't the first issue raised about Omix ADA quality but certainly isn't the worst of outcomes either.  I'll use O-A parts if I have to but do look for alternatives if they're available.

The broken innards isn't surprising.  The irony is, the next one you get may work for 10 years - trouble free.  Keep the broken one for spare parts!

Hope they come through for you.
Posted by: Mytwojeeps2020
« on: July 01, 2021, 04:41:20 PM »

I hear you…
Posted by: SteveKfl
« on: July 01, 2021, 04:35:24 PM »

It is becoming all to common that brand new parts are junk.  Intentional to generate foreign trade, and local confusion and frustrations???  For example, LED lights are said to be good for 50K hours, but I don't get that kind of longevity out of the "circuits/transformers controlling the LEDs", so the light still becomes useless.  The "new normal"?  I hope not.  Good luck with the next new one.
Posted by: Mytwojeeps2020
« on: July 01, 2021, 02:10:12 PM »

Update:

Both turn signal devices worked fine, UNTIL I tried to connect them to the steering column, and then they grounded out and blew the fuse.

KW is sending me a new one. They told me they didn’t need the old one back, so I had a car electrician autopsy it. Inside, he found no insulating parts separating the power line from the casing, and two wires that were the reverse of what was pictured on the diagram. There was also a plastic part that connected various wires that he could not repair.

The new one should be in today, so I’ll keep you posted.
Posted by: SteveKfl
« on: June 27, 2021, 02:13:53 PM »

I have a similar, but different chrome turn signal with hazard switch, no brand or model on the casing.  I performed the test I suggested, and found that "my dark blue wire" is the only lead "to casing ground" on mine, if that helps you any.
Posted by: Mytwojeeps2020
« on: June 27, 2021, 08:59:07 AM »

Thanks, gents. All good suggestions! I’ll try again tomorrow.
Posted by: Rus Curtis
« on: June 26, 2021, 08:19:25 PM »

Okay.  They look alike.  Google says the top one is an Omix ADA part number that some of the vendors carry.  The bottom one from Amazon seems to come from China (had to look up Centaurus Electronics and that's what it said).

The good news is you've figured out the non-turn signal power to the tail lights.  So that narrows it down to the turn signal.  Re-reading your last post, you got the turn signal to work until you tried to mount it to the steering column, right?  That sounds like a short - like Steve says, somehow the power is going to the casing/body of the turn signal switch.  Opening the turn signal body will probably reveal a bad solder job or an unprotected wire. 

I don't know how comfortable you are with opening up stuff just to see what's inside, but you could use the old one to test continuity (ohm meter) as a bench "lab rabbit".  I'll bet both look the same inside.  You may even fix the first one or if you're comfortable enough use it as a guide while you probe the newer one.

I ended up opening mine (no ground) and wound up running another wire from an added terminal out through the harness to connect under the dash.  Mine is the Signal Stat 900 (black) discussed here:
Turn Signal Wiring on CJ3B.info

The only other suggestion I'd have is to return the newer one for replace or refund.
Posted by: SteveKfl
« on: June 26, 2021, 07:57:38 PM »

Ground and hot are switched somewhere.  Case is grounded, and should not be hot.  Try working backwards without the battery hooked up, from the 'mounted to ground' turn signal switch to each terminal looking for a 'short reading' on a multimeter.   Then, check... did that terminal have power or ground hooked to it before, or per instructions?  That is how I would approach it not knowing what all has been isolated already.  Just a suggestion.
Posted by: Mytwojeeps2020
« on: June 26, 2021, 04:41:42 PM »

Hi, Rus!

The only marking on the old turn signal was “Everlasting.”

I bought two new ones: one from KW and the other off Amazon. No reason to go into why I bought two - long story.

The one from Amazon is also marked “Everlasting.”  Both are identical, that I can see, and so are the instructions.

Here are the pics

Thanks
Posted by: Rus Curtis
« on: June 26, 2021, 02:46:20 PM »

Quote from: Mytwojeeps2020 on June 26, 2021, 02:19:42 PM
Ok, so I’m making some progress…some, anyway.

I restored the power to the rear lights after I replaced the turn signal.

When I tried to remount the turn signal to the steering column, it blew everything out again.

My probe shows that there is 12 volts emitting off the turn signal body, so when I touch it to the steering column, it blows everything out.

I followed the instructions that came with the turn signal, and rechecked them 1/2 dozen times.

Is it me, cheap Chinese parts, bad Chinese instructions, or a combination of all?

I’m still perplexed. Any suggestions?


Ironic.  I had exactly the opposite problem where I couldn't get a ground on my turn signal.....

What's the brand or model of your new turn signal?  What type turn signal did you have that you swapped out?
Posted by: Mytwojeeps2020
« on: June 26, 2021, 02:19:42 PM »

Ok, so I’m making some progress…some, anyway.

I restored the power to the rear lights after I replaced the turn signal.

When I tried to remount the turn signal to the steering column, it blew everything out again.

My probe shows that there is 12 volts emitting off the turn signal body, so when I touch it to the steering column, it blows everything out.

I followed the instructions that came with the turn signal, and rechecked them 1/2 dozen times.

Is it me, cheap Chinese parts, bad Chinese instructions, or a combination of all?

I’m still perplexed. Any suggestions?
Posted by: Mytwojeeps2020
« on: May 03, 2021, 07:41:40 AM »

Steve & Rus,

I do have the service manual, so no problem there. And yes, this problem is with the CJ5.

I was thinking that maybe the obvious was escaping me, and that I was missing a fuse somewhere.

Oh, well, I’ll start unwrapping the insulation today.

I’ll post the results when I figure this out.

Thanks!