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Posted by: Rus Curtis
« on: September 02, 2019, 08:39:05 PM »

That shaft sticking up is the "Cover And Tube" found in GROUP 23-02 - STEERING GEAR ASSEMBLY.

It's function is to give you a conduit for the horn wire to exit out the bottom to connect the horn button to the horn while keeping the gear oil inside the housing.  That cap on the bottom should seal and the tube is long enough to be above the top level of the lubricant.

Dave shows how to make one of these:
https://cj3apage.com/Forum/index.php?topic=4031.msg34344#msg34344


It can be tapped out from the inside, but if it's not leaking it could be left alone.
Posted by: toynrnd
« on: September 02, 2019, 07:23:08 PM »

Got some time to work on the steering again today.  And just when you thought it could not get any stranger...check this out.
Picture 1: The steering shaft in my other column is a bit ragged near the end, close to where the upper bearing will ride.
Picture 2: I pulled the steering shaft out of my original steering box, and find this tube/dowel/whatever sticking up.
Picture 3: It extends down through the box...
Picture 4: Past the lower bearing...
Picture 5: And through the plug at the end of the steering box.  What kind of voodoo is this?   ???  Any thoughts?
Picture 6: At least my original steering shaft is in good shape.
Posted by: Rus Curtis
« on: August 27, 2019, 09:34:34 AM »

Amazing! 
Posted by: 1955CJ-5
« on: August 26, 2019, 10:39:16 PM »

Thanks for updating and I'm glad you finally got it apart....you are now an expert on steering wheel removal! :)

Randy
Posted by: toynrnd
« on: August 26, 2019, 10:23:32 PM »

I'm back!  After a week of vacation, a week of catching up at work, and a forum upgrade...the results are in (sort of).  After another couple hours of work, in the end I had to cut the tube off.  I got as much tube metal as I could from inside the wheel, and ground it flush with the bottom side of the steering wheel metal hub. 
Picture 1: steering tube cut off.  I knicked the underside of my steering wheel a couple times with the Dremel tool. :(
Picture 2: The leftovers from the tube, the spring, the bearing cup, etc.
Picture 3: A little closer look
Picture 4: Cleaned up(?)
Picture 5: My replacement column with the remnants of a steering wheel still on it.
Picture 6: My guess is my original steering tube somehow made its way up to the small groove in the steering wheel hub and flared over it, locking it on the steering wheel.  Who knows?
Picture 7: Steering wheel hub off my replacement column.
Picture 8: Replacement column needs a little cleaning up.
New bearings, cup, seals, etc. arrived today from Kaiser Willys.  Hopefully I can get some garage time in this weekend.   
Posted by: toynrnd
« on: August 07, 2019, 04:08:10 PM »

Yes, I�m not not understanding at all either. When I went to remove the wheel, the bearing press I was using as my wheel puller was not contacting the tube. It would rotate with the wheel. Perhaps when i has to reset my puller to get that last little bit of the wheel off the splines a caught the tube and jammed it into the underside of the wheel? I�m hoping to get some more garage time to finish the removal before vacation.[ch129310]
Posted by: athawk11
« on: August 07, 2019, 03:34:15 PM »

I'm even more mystified.

Picture in Post #25.  I assume the outer cut steel wall is the outer tube...that spun freely on the wheel prior to disassembly.

The inner wall is the bearing cup...?  If so, I'm still not understanding what is holding the tube to the wheel....?
Posted by: toynrnd
« on: August 07, 2019, 11:56:58 AM »

Sorry for not clarifying, the picture in post #24 is the steering tube and the bearing cup. The material between us part of the wood dowel I tried hammering the bearing, cup, and wheel off the tube with. The dowel got hammered into the cup, so part of the wood went to the center of the cup, and part of the wood filled the space between the cup and tube. When I cut the tube, the dowel was still wedged in there, so I cut through all of it. When the wheel was free oof the tube, the wood from the center of the cup fell out but the rest stayed put and I prayed it out with a screwdriver. Sorry for the long winded explanation. I�m trying to make sure I give all the details.[ch128578]
Posted by: 1955CJ-5
« on: August 07, 2019, 10:37:28 AM »

Isn't that interesting....like Rus I'm not entirely sure what I'm looking at...

I'm curious about the apparent thick wall of the steering tube in the picture in post #24...is that some sort of packing material?

More will be revealed!
Posted by: Rus Curtis
« on: August 07, 2019, 09:38:04 AM »

Quote
Thank you for the input everyone.� I worked on this thing for an hour and a half last night...
The bearing cup was rotating inside the tube.
I used a 1-1/2" wood dowel to try and knock the cup, bearing and wheel off the tube, no luck.
I cut the tube off near the wheel and started cutting things with a Dremel tool.� A portion of the cup, the spring, and the ball bearings are out. Whew!
What a mess!  I'm looking at this small picture trying to understand what I'm seeing.  The outer column and the inner Tube and Cam should only have air in between.  What are we looking at here?  What is the material you ended up cutting through?

The second image looks awfully familiar. 
Posted by: toynrnd
« on: August 07, 2019, 06:05:18 AM »

Getting there...
Posted by: toynrnd
« on: August 07, 2019, 06:03:16 AM »

Thank you for the input everyone.� I worked on this thing for an hour and a half last night...
The bearing cup was rotating inside the tube.
I used a 1-1/2" wood dowel to try and knock the cup, bearing and wheel off the tube, no luck.
I cut the tube off near the wheel and started cutting things with a Dremel tool.� A portion of the cup, the spring, and the ball bearings are out. Whew!
Posted by: Bruce_W
« on: August 07, 2019, 12:09:05 AM »

I had to go take a look. The tube measures 1.5 inches on the outside, and the hole in the bottom of an original steering wheel measured out at 1.540 inches or thereabouts.   BW
Posted by: Bruce_W
« on: August 06, 2019, 10:40:52 PM »

  There's a spring under there, or at least there should be. The steering wheel pushes down on the spring, which holds the bearing in place. If everything is there, the steering wheel should not be able to get that far down, or the outer tube that far up.
  It also seems to me that the tube is normally bigger than the opening in the bottom of the wheel. If the tube somehow worked its way in there, it would be a tight fit.
   Here's a thought - if it got so far that the steel hub or the steel spokes rubbed on the top of the tube, the tube may have gotten flared. As it gradually became flared, it wore clearance for the flare inside the wheel, and now the end of the tube is bigger than the hole it needs to come out of. Reaching? Maybe.   BW
Posted by: athawk11
« on: August 06, 2019, 09:23:14 PM »

Almost makes me want to pull my wheel real quick and take a look.