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Posted by: Marcelo
« on: September 01, 2017, 10:55:25 AM »

I have been able to identify 3 different spring packs, but I do not know if the first one is from a cj2a.
as it seems to have the same height ...
Posted by: Marcelo
« on: September 01, 2017, 10:12:45 AM »

One back spring is ok the other ones is bad :-/
Posted by: Marcelo
« on: September 01, 2017, 09:59:45 AM »

It is destroyed but I agree it is similar to the one in the beginning of this topic.
Posted by: Marcelo
« on: September 01, 2017, 09:56:52 AM »

Thanks Bob W!

A renowned restored jeep in my region sold its scrap to an enthusiastic.
I had the opportunity to check the material and bought the seats I could identify in the middle of the wagons seats.

I�ve found 2 passenger seats and I could confirm your explanation according to 2A-3A same back seat.
Also that 3A and M38 have different springs packs or the spring pack has evolved throughout M38A1 production because I�ve found 2 different passenger bottom spring packs.
Posted by: Bob W
« on: August 24, 2017, 06:30:48 AM »

CJ-2A and CJ-3A seat back springs are the same thickness.
Posted by: Marcelo
« on: August 23, 2017, 10:42:16 PM »

Hi everything,
I've been searching for Springs for a long time.
Last week I found this passenget SEAT.

I know 3A SEAT springs are 4 inches higher.
How about BACK Springs.
Are 3A back Springs the same as 2A back Springs?

Regards
Posted by: Bob W
« on: May 30, 2017, 12:47:55 PM »

Yes, the CJ-2A and CJ-3A seats have the same footprint. As far as I know Walcks doesn't make the CJ-3A bottom springs. Maybe if enough people request them they will?
Posted by: aboyandhisdog
« on: May 29, 2017, 03:27:59 PM »

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The CJ-2A bottom springs are thinner than CJ-3A springs.


Bob, I have the padded seats and covers from Beechwood.  They are 3 1/2 inch thick including the plywood pan.  Are the 2A seats the same footprint, with the thickness being the only difference?  Do you think I could get these 2A springs and have my upholstery guy add foam to make them fit my 3A covers?  I guess Walcks doesn't make the springs for a 3A.
Posted by: specialty
« on: May 25, 2017, 09:44:04 AM »

When I first put my 49 together I did not have the seat backs and it looked good without them. Until I took it for a ride and it beat me to death. If anyone is thinking they can get by for awhile without backs forget it! Off topic I know but just saying in case anyone thinks they are not needed.
Posted by: Tumbleweed
« on: May 25, 2017, 09:23:25 AM »

There is a noticeable difference in the way the seats feel on a rough road. In my CJ3A I have 4" Foam in the seat bottoms and it is very comfortable but my 53 wagon has the spring seats and it feels like riding on air suspension! Sort of like the air ride seats in a big rig.

The foam does support you but it just does not have that "spring" feeling when you are on a rough road or trail. I am amazed at how much the foam costs as well. I got mine from Beachwood Canvas. They have 3" and 4" seat bottoms.
Posted by: mtnman37879
« on: May 24, 2017, 09:26:19 AM »

I've used these springs in Model T's I've built. The company got there start in seat springs and are open to making custom springs.
http://www.snydersantiqueauto.com/model-t-seat-springs?page=1&perpage=12
Posted by: Bob W
« on: May 22, 2017, 09:02:43 PM »

Looks like someone has modified the springs in that seat. The entire spring assembly should be made from the "zig-zag" type springs that are on the perimeter. Later replacement seat springs were made up of the coil springs like the center 6 springs in this assembly. Walcks 4WD makes reproduction CJ-2A seat springs.http://walcks4wd.com/seat-spring-set-back-and-bottom-cj2a-1945-1949.html
The CJ-2A bottom springs are thinner than CJ-3A springs.
Posted by: aboyandhisdog
« on: May 21, 2017, 10:45:03 AM »

Hi Harald,  That looks like it would be a really comfortable seat.  I'd be interested in finding a spring seat.  Been meaning to talk to my local upholstery shop here but haven't yet.  Afraid shipping from Portugal would put it out of reach, but I do hope you keep us updated with your progress.  I know there are a lot of us out there with the newer foam seats who would love to improve on the comfort. 
Posted by: Harald
« on: May 21, 2017, 09:49:14 AM »

Here is a pic of the coils in a 1950 passenger seat. THose of the driver's seat didn't survive.
I'm planning to get them copied.  If that is feasable, would anyone be interested?
Posted by: Carls_jeep
« on: May 03, 2012, 10:40:58 AM »

You won't be able to heat treat the spring steel after the seat is assembled. You can measure the wire diameter and get spring wire that is not hardened and bend it to the series of U's to the same shape as an original and have that heat treated. Then you can bend it to make it spring up but you still have to have the wire frame that is part of the seat spring configuration plus all the spring supports in the frame.

After you get one done you may never want to do something like that again. The fact that no one makes a replacement spring seat frame to cover should tell you something about the difficulty of making one.

Go to an upholstery shop and ask if you can sit on some different thickness and hardness of seat foam. Then make a decision as to how it would work for you. Be sure to pull your feet up on a box to replicate how you would sit in the Jeep. Be aware that for most of us the back part of your butt will contact the seat more than your legs, unless your short.

While I did test the foam I wish I had picked a firmer foam for my seats, for on a long drive my butt gets sore. So with that thought when you pick the foam you like choose the next firmer foam. �