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Posted by: johnnybravo
« on: March 05, 2014, 11:14:02 PM »

The tailgate on M38 was only bolted shut when not in use. The spare tire carrier on M38 is two piece. The top can be removed and relocated to passenger side like the CJ3A. If you look at passenger side of OE M38 tub you will see four dimples for locating the tire carrier holes.� We used our M38 tailgates on a regular basis to draw ammo, carry heavy weapons and etc.� move tire carrier and tire to side, strap can somewhere, strap top back panel to forward bow and use straps in lieu of chains. You can make the change pretty quick.

As I pointed out earlier, your jeep appears to be M38. From the the photo your tub and frame have M38 features.
Posted by: Quebec Jeep
« on: March 05, 2014, 06:52:30 PM »

If you want to know the difference between a 3A an M38 i suggest you to check Bob W website;
http://cj3a.info/cj3a/m38cj3a.html
Posted by: garage gnome
« on: March 05, 2014, 08:45:36 AM »

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Dang Ryan, GG, you keep beating me to the punch.� Shouldn't you east coast guys be in bed by now?

Tim

I never sleep.  8-)
Posted by: F Bill
« on: March 05, 2014, 07:39:44 AM »

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M38's have functioning tailgates similar to the CJ's. An M38 tailgate will have added support brackets for the spare tire carrier that the CJ tailgates do not have.

 If you want some really good detail pics of M38's check out willysmjeeps.com. Don't forget to come back to this site afterwards though! And post some more pics for us if you can. I think it's safe to say we all like M38's here.

I second that vote for Wikkysmjeep......Great info there.
Wasn't the tailgate normally bolted shut on the M38?

I didn't see any pics of the jeep in question but also when there is a M-38 style floor pan there is also the possibility you are looking at a early repop tub, with features of all the different flatfender models mixed together. The CJ sized gas filler is usually the giveaway to that. M-38 gas filler was larger.
Posted by: bretto
« on: March 05, 2014, 12:29:17 AM »

Tim, not to turn you from this site which is great.  I have a M38 and I visit here everyday but, if you want great info and specifics about M38�s, DO check out willysmjeeps.  Tons of great info and all the gov issued manuals are downloadable from there.  If you go there, be sure to visit the photo galleries, in particular, see WesK's.
Brett
Posted by: Tim
« on: March 04, 2014, 11:15:56 PM »

Thank you all so much. I really appreciate the help and yes I would still like to stay on this forum I will post pics
Posted by: Ryan_M
« on: March 04, 2014, 11:12:30 PM »

I am. Good thing for smart phones  :D
Posted by: athawk11
« on: March 04, 2014, 11:09:29 PM »

Dang Ryan, GG, you keep beating me to the punch.  Shouldn't you east coast guys be in bed by now?

Tim
Posted by: athawk11
« on: March 04, 2014, 11:04:13 PM »

No, the M38 had the traditional Willys tailgate.� It had addtional supports on the inside to support the spare tire and the gas can, although,�the tailgate on the M38 was not usable.� It was bolted shut.

The M38 was built for the military and was based on the CJ3A platform.

Tim
Posted by: Ryan_M
« on: March 04, 2014, 11:03:17 PM »

M38's have functioning tailgates similar to the CJ's. An M38 tailgate will have added support brackets for the spare tire carrier that the CJ tailgates do not have.

 If you want some really good detail pics of M38's check out willysmjeeps.com. Don't forget to come back to this site afterwards though! And post some more pics for us if you can. I think it's safe to say we all like M38's here.
Posted by: Tim
« on: March 04, 2014, 10:44:51 PM »

Thanks for all the help. It is a 6 volt system currently. I have found the original rims all 5 so I will be getting rid of these that are on it now No more snow chains for this one. So I will start looking for a spare tire mount that goes on rear of vehicle. Do you think a previous owner made the tailgate operate as a traditional tailgate?
Posted by: Ryan_M
« on: March 04, 2014, 10:34:49 PM »

Yup, we've seen that one (tire chains in CA!) but I had forgotten that was you. Looks like an M38 from here. 3A's don't have that guard handle around the gas tank filler. Filler neck looks small though. Maybe a replacement tank?
Posted by: athawk11
« on: March 04, 2014, 10:32:46 PM »

Hi Tim,
You have an M38.  At least everything I see. And it looks to be a very nice one.  Only problem is the M38 was  24 volt electrical system, but it is very common for them to be converted to 6 or 12 volt.

Tim
Posted by: Tim
« on: March 04, 2014, 10:32:07 PM »

Ok thanks, now I'm not sure where to go next? Start researching m 38's  and looking into differences
Posted by: garage gnome
« on: March 04, 2014, 10:29:12 PM »

Thats an M38 for sure. The grille hinges and battery box on the cowl.