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Posted by: macrisel
« on: February 25, 2015, 03:17:39 PM »

Don't feel bad Ryan, I busted a windshield on an '84 Chevy I had once.� I was trying to do it myself and save a few bucks.....and ended up paying twice what I would have.� It was right then and there I learned the greatest downfall of doing your own glass work.........glass breaks and you can't weld it back together!

I took my windshield to one of my local glass shops for install and they were happy to cut the glass and install it for $100 and I supplied the gasket.� They got a kick out of just seeing the old windshield and even came to a car show a month later to see my finished jeep!
Posted by: 1955CJ-5
« on: February 24, 2015, 09:47:36 PM »

And then there is the locking strip....getting the gasket in is only about 7/8's of the job..

I bought this tool on Fbills advice and though I only used it once it was like magic....

I think two workers with a bunch of glazing sticks and a couple of bottles of whisk...I mean Windex would be able to successfully install a windshield...or not.... :-?

Posted by: 1955CJ-5
« on: February 24, 2015, 07:37:07 PM »

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If you are looking for "bones" try searching for "trim sticks".

"Glazing stick" works too..
Posted by: Bob W
« on: February 24, 2015, 06:58:59 PM »

If you are looking for "bones" try searching for "trim sticks".
Posted by: Ryan_M
« on: February 24, 2015, 05:50:01 PM »

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YIKES!! But if you figure about 14-15 bucks a sq ft (going rate retail) and extra shape charges for 4 radiused corners (typical) then your shop only charged ya 20 bucks to install the glass (and take the risk) not bad really..
My old shop buys 1/4 lami for about $6.50 sq ft . With a retail "guy off the street" markup you're right in that range.
Glass is an energy consuming product to make and extra processes reqd to laminate so, ya, you're not in bad shape with what your shop charged..


The shop supplied the new seal as well for that price.
Posted by: RICKG
« on: February 24, 2015, 05:21:01 PM »

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Well here it is, good as new. Nothing $185 couldn't fix.....

YIKES!! But if you figure about 14-15 bucks a sq ft (going rate retail) and extra shape charges for 4 radiused corners (typical) then your shop only charged ya 20 bucks to install the glass (and take the risk) not bad really..
My old shop buys 1/4 lami for about $6.50 sq ft . With a retail "guy off the street" markup you're right in that range.
Glass is an energy consuming product to make and extra processes reqd to laminate so, ya, you're not in bad shape with what your shop charged..
Posted by: Ryan_M
« on: February 24, 2015, 05:00:47 PM »

Well here it is, good as new. Nothing $185 couldn't fix.....

Posted by: JeepFever
« on: February 24, 2015, 01:25:04 PM »

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man, you guys are making me really dread the day when I have to do that!

I am thinking the same thing!� �:o

edit:  I put a couple windshields in CJ-7s in the past,  not fun,  but I don't remember being this hard.  . .  anybody know if CJ-3 is going to be harder than CJ-7?   
Posted by: RICKG
« on: February 24, 2015, 09:36:54 AM »

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Use multiple "bones"

OK..I've googled it in several different ways....no luck...

What are these "bones"??
The term "bone" could easily be applied to the top foto due to it's off white color.
Made of nylon, plastic etc. Should post these in the "Handy Tools" section as well.
Posted by: 1955CJ-5
« on: February 23, 2015, 09:38:46 PM »

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Use multiple "bones"

OK..I've googled it in several different ways....no luck...

What are these "bones"??
Posted by: corpsman
« on: February 23, 2015, 08:22:58 PM »

man, you guys are making me really dread the day when I have to do that!
Posted by: Ryan_M
« on: February 23, 2015, 06:19:15 PM »

I brought the whole mess to the glass shop today. They were highly amused at the dried blood splattered all over the busted windshield.  ;D

The guy took one look at the gasket and told me it was too small. This gasket was purchased from a reputable vendor as absolutely "correct".

When I tried to install the windshield on my 3A a few years ago I finally gave up on that too and brought it to the same shop. They wrestled with the new gasket (from a different reputable vendor) for the better part of 20 minutes before they threw in the towel and reused the original one which was still in pretty good shape.

So now I'm wondering if the glass shop doesn't know what they are doing or if I've really received two bum gaskets in a row. I would certainly feel better if I could blame some of my failure on the gaskets.

Regardless, the glass shop will cut a new windshield, install with a new gasket, and I should have it back later this week. Hopefully there is no blood on the new one....

Posted by: athawk11
« on: February 23, 2015, 06:04:56 PM »

Setting the windshield was one of the more challenging tasks.  Did the whole thing...on carpet...in the middle of the living room.  I certainly earned some strange looks from my wife. 

I was drenched in sweat, throwing F-bombs, and generally having the SH%&* kicked out of me for a solid 2 hours.  Ultimately, it ended in success.

Would I do it again?  Probably...but I'm also a glutton for punishment.  :D  I hate being beaten by inanimate objects.

Tim
Posted by: RICKG
« on: February 23, 2015, 11:11:31 AM »

Insight from yours truly-a retired professional glazer.

NEVER use ANYTHING steel-screwdriver, putty knife, etc.� Do so and you're DOOMED >:(

Use multiple "bones"-they're the right tools for the job. Have 3 or 4 on hand to "spread" the load.� Pull the bone toward you, don't push-pushing increases the pressure on the glass.
Use the slippery, messy soap solution tho it's a PITA to work with and clean up. Regular old Windex in the spray bottle works well and leaves less mess and hey you'll want to polish your new glass when done anyway, right??

Handy tip..try to do the work in a heated environment (I know, it's easy to say this time of year) making sure your rubber gasket is warm, soft, pliable. Cold, hard rubber greatly increases your chance of failure.

Hope this helps.. Rick
Posted by: 1955CJ-5
« on: February 22, 2015, 08:44:01 PM »

The dreaded windshield install.....I feel your pain.....no other jeep related task has a greater level of frustration or a greater probability of failure.... >:(