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Rambling, Malarky, Rants, Etc... / Re: La Habra Heights VFD On CJ3B Page
« Last post by SteveKfl on Yesterday at 08:19:16 AM »
Thanks for the links.  I was wondering what tanks were being discussed.
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Rambling, Malarky, Rants, Etc... / Re: La Habra Heights VFD On CJ3B Page
« Last post by derekredmond on August 16, 2026, 07:28:29 PM »
Good question, Rus!  Randy Johanson, who posted his photo of the CJ-5 on Smugmug, says 300 gallons in the back and 150 gallons in the front.  Not sure where he got that info, but it's obviously a huge over estimate.  Dan Stracner's article about the history of the department says a combined total of 160 gallons in the two tanks, and even that seems high.  So I elected not to include it in my article, and just said that the Jeeps would have to work hard on the hills. My guess from looking at the photos would be maybe 120 gallons?

Derek

https://CJ3B.info/Fire/LaHabraHeights.html
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Once You've Joined / Welcome Rick55cj3b
« Last post by Forum Master on August 16, 2026, 07:12:02 PM »
Welcome to the CJ DJ 3A 3B Willys Community Forum Rick55cj3b!

Tell us more about you and your Willys!

We love pics so don't be afraid to post pics of your Willys.
Here we like any kind of them!

You will find a lots of smart people here that are willing to help.
Enjoy your stay,
Pascal and all forum members

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BODY and trim / Re: Floor Plugs
« Last post by Rus Curtis on August 14, 2026, 04:53:03 PM »
I'm thinking that if just one owner wishes a vendor would offer these little items, I'm hoping that this will help. ;D
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BODY and trim / Re: Floor Plugs
« Last post by Bob W on August 13, 2026, 11:58:56 AM »
Russ,
Thanks for doing the research on these plugs and posting the modern part numbers for them. 674268 is indeed the Cowl Pillar Plug. Interestingly these rubber plugs first appeared on the CJ-3A about December of 1950. Prior to that the hole was filled with "GM-438445 Bolt, hex hd., 3/8"-16 x 1-3/4" Front floor front strainer to floor pan", along with appropriate nuts and stamped pal nuts.
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Rambling, Malarky, Rants, Etc... / La Habra Heights VFD On CJ3B Page
« Last post by Rus Curtis on August 11, 2026, 04:32:45 PM »
Derek,
That was some serious eye-candy!   

I'm curious if there was any mention about capacity for either of those tanks mounted on the jeeps.  It sounded like the Fire Chief had a specific need to include them but with water somewhere just above 8 lbs/gal, I was just curious what the "mountain goats" were pulling up the hills.
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Your DJ-3A Project / Re: 1957 DJ3A
« Last post by Rus Curtis on August 09, 2026, 10:36:49 PM »
Very nice work! 
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Your DJ-3A Project / Re: 1957 DJ3A
« Last post by 48willys on August 09, 2026, 11:12:20 AM »
I've been digging into the fiberglass repairs and made some good progress with rebuilding the corner. Some repairs to the backside still need to be done, but its good to see the bulk of the corner rebuilt.
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BODY and trim / Floor Plugs
« Last post by Rus Curtis on August 06, 2026, 10:05:47 AM »
Back in the day, there was a post about a drain hole plug back on Tapatalk, I wanted to expand and share more information on some rubber plugs that aren’t easy to find.  These plugs, like any rubber item, deteriorate over time.  If left alone, they’ll dry rot and become brittle.  Throughout this long post, I’ll have to make some assumptions.

The first plug is located within the cowl pillar on the floor pan. 

Wade’s cowl pillar


I believe this is the Cowl Pillar Plug, part 674268, as best I can tell.  This hole passes through the hat channel reinforcement.  Since I have little documentation other than my trusty SM and PM, I deduced this hole had some sort of temporary use during assembly, i.e. for alignment (see also the holes up front under the toe board gusset that go through the front end of the hat channel).  If so, once the tub was assembled, this hole needed plugging. 

During disassembly, I couldn’t remove the plug in one piece as it was brittle.  From underneath I noticed it sticking out of the hat channel (really long plug?).  Since it was brittle, I decided to cut the head off and push it out through the bottom.  What came out were 2 plugs, one stacked on top of the other.  Without comparing multiple floors, I can only assume this was done originally to keep water out from the top and also from the bottom.




The other plug was found under the toolbox right next to the angled bend in the tub side-panel.  I think this is part 671564.  It’s the only other listed plug for the floor and both of these plugs are in the same group, 31-09 – FLOOR AND UNDERBODY.

Makes sense to me; the toolbox could collect and hold water and the owner would need to have a way to drain it.  My PO (I’m sure his intentions were good) punched 2 holes through the toolbox floor to assist with draining – with a rubber plug just inches away, still intact.  Amazing.  Although, had he pushed the plug out, it no doubt would have been lost or not replaced and I would not know what to look for. 

Like the other plugs, this toolbox plug was brittle so I also cut the flat head off to remove it.






Wade’s plug from below and inside toolbox



Now I’ve got two different plugs (hard as rock) cut in half that needed replacing.  First, I needed a source for grommets and plugs.  Google returned several sources but I spent most of my time surfing through Steele Rubber Products:

http://www.steelerubber.com/

What I initially liked about them was they listed specification sheets where you could look up plugs based on hole size and other dimensions.

Next, I needed to measure these removed plugs.  I took several measurements from each plug type.  I also measured the holes the same way.  Taking into consideration that the factory used common parts when able to probably save on production costs, I assumed these plugs wouldn’t be odd or special, i.e. common sizes and most probably parts that were already available.  So, after allowing for slight deformation in my measurements, I contacted Steele Rubber with questions.

After several conversations with a company representative, I placed an order.  These are the plugs I received.




As you can see there are some minor differences in appearance but they do fit in the holes.  I have completed several “test fits” to see if they would work.  I went back shortly after testing these plugs and ordered a second set of the small plugs for the cowl pillar holes so I can plug the bottom holes of the hat channels as well as the upper holes in the floor pan.

Since doing this, I see that Steele Rubber Products’ website has changed a few times.    Instead of being able to look up specs, they now want you to look up items by vehicle or you can search the plugs/grommets themselves.  What I found is that searching the actual grommets/plugs each will give you the dimensions in the products description.

Hopefully, this will help anyone wanting to replace old plugs when needed.
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This is cool.

Thanks for posting this.
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